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  1.    02 Apr 2016 #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by flybynite View Post
    You can always copy your install.esd file to another location. When MS update downloads a new Insider Build, I always wait until it says Preparing to Install. Then I copy it, and make an ISO out of it using a decrypter even though this install.esd is already decrypted. Then I restart, mount the ISO, and click on the setup file to start my upgrade.
    One of the first things I do is create a folder for the current build and put install.esd inside it.
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  2.    02 Apr 2016 #272
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    A couple of reasons (haven't tried either one) I've noticed is that if you remove Windows.old (doesn't sound logical) or if you do a "cleanup", Install.esd is no longer there.
    Right I know about disk-clean + Windows Old .
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Another thing . . . Once in the Sources folder, you have to scroll way, way, way down until you get to Install.esd. Things are in alphabetical order and there's a very long list of things.
    ha ha ........I've got an inexpensive 4 button high precision lazer freewheeling smooth scrolling Logitech M-500 USB mouse .
    greatest thing since sliced bread PC mouse-wise short of a high end game mouse I don't need on this PC anyway and you can game OK with it also just not like a high end multi function programmable game mouse but the precision is fine for shooters .

    I wish I had one of these-eons ago although I'm not sure fast smooth scrolling has been in widows and browsers all that long on the slower graphics stacks before Windows 10

    When you set it to to freewheel like I do the mouse wheel has has flywheel effect when you flick the mouse wheel and it gets to the bottom of a webpage or file folder almost instantly and anywhere in between faster than a scalded dog you can scroll fast or slow (precision scroll ) or stop it as needed in an instant .It's light and not huge too !

    I used to hate bottom to folder or page scrolling and NO precision scrolling or pointing on my OEM or similar disposable mouses

    This thing is great for boosting productivity if you use a mouse a lot .

    After a short while you don't even think about it you just flick the wheel how fast U need to and U know how hard to flick it then stop it to get what U want it's effortless & plug & play


    You can go back to normal yesterdays news mouse wheel detents with the small button below the scroll wheel but I prefer to freewheel it , it was like $30.00.

    M500 Corded Mouse - Logitech
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  3.    02 Apr 2016 #273
    Join Date : Feb 2015
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    dual boot W10 10586th2/14291 rs1 Win. Insider since Jan. 2015

    Quote Originally Posted by flybynite View Post
    You can always copy your install.esd file to another location. When MS update downloads a new Insider Build, I always wait until it says Preparing to Install. Then I copy it, and make an ISO out of it using a decrypter even though this install.esd is already decrypted. Then I restart, mount the ISO, and click on the setup file to start my upgrade.

    Exactly

    Or you can resume the Win updtate /re start /install option ,mount the ISO for an upgrade or burn ISO to media if U need a coaster or USB or for clean install that way .

    Shout out to Gold member Kari he says this is on the house :

    ESD to ISO - Create Bootable ISO from Windows 10 ESD File - Windows 10 Forums
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  4.    02 Apr 2016 #274
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    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Quote Originally Posted by blutos cousin View Post
    Right I know about disk-clean + Windows Old .

    ha ha ........I've got an inexpensive 4 button high precision lazer freewheeling smooth scrolling Logitech M-500 USB mouse .
    greatest thing since sliced bread PC mouse-wise short of a high end game mouse I don't need on this PC anyway and you can game OK with it also just not like a high end multi function programmable game mouse but the precision is fine for shooters .
    Mine's an M510 (can you say one-upmanship?).

    Quote Originally Posted by blutos cousin View Post
    I wish I had one of these-eons ago although I'm not sure fast smooth scrolling has been in widows and browsers all that long on the slower graphics stacks before Windows 10

    When you set it to to freewheel like I do the mouse wheel has has flywheel effect when you flick the mouse wheel and it gets to the bottom of a webpage or file folder almost instantly and anywhere in between faster than a scalded dog you can scroll fast or slow (precision scroll ) or stop it as needed in an instant .It's light and not huge too!

    I used to hate bottom to folder or page scrolling and NO precision scrolling or pointing on my OEM or similar disposable mouses

    This thing is great for boosting productivity if you use a mouse a lot .

    After a short while you don't even think about it you just flick the wheel how fast U need to and U know how hard to flick it then stop it to get what U want it's effortless & plug & play

    You can go back to normal yesterdays news mouse wheel detents with the small button below the scroll wheel but I prefer to freewheel it , it was like $30.00.

    M500 Corded Mouse - Logitech
    Mine's wireless and does the same things. I bought it and the keyboard as a package for $39.00. Just plug in the dongle and the mouse and keyboard are all set up without Windows having to fine 'em.

    Still, not everyone has the good (and cheap) stuff, so it's good to let 'em know how far they need to scroll down.
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  5.    02 Apr 2016 #275
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    Not using a mouse, just a touchpad. I click on the size column and install.esd pops right to the top, no wheeling needed.
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  6.    02 Apr 2016 #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by Word Man View Post
    Not using a mouse, just a touchpad. I click on the size column and install.esd pops right to the top, no wheeling needed.
    Nice to know, Word Man. That's the easiest method of all, although I can do it with a mouse too. I don't have a touchpad on this desktop.
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  7.    02 Apr 2016 #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by Word Man View Post
    Not using a mouse, just a touchpad. I click on the size column and install.esd pops right to the top, no wheeling needed.
    Using mouse (Logitech here too) or touchpad, still one click beats scrolling.
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  8.    02 Apr 2016 #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Mine's an M510 (can you say one-upmanship?).



    Mine's wireless and does the same things. I bought it and the keyboard as a package for $39.00. Just plug in the dongle and the mouse and keyboard are all set up without Windows having to fine 'em.

    Still, not everyone has the good (and cheap) stuff, so it's good to let 'em know how far they need to scroll down.
    Looks like we're using same kind of mouse . At least at this computer and according to the pictures. Ditched the box away years ago.
    Or it may be predecessor?
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  9.    02 Apr 2016 #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    One of the first things I do is create a folder for the current build and put install.esd inside it.
    That's the same thing I do. I use to make the ISO file as soon as I got the install.esd file. Now I just copy the install.esd to a folder on a different drive in case I need it.
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  10.    02 Apr 2016 #280
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    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Did you do a "cleanup" after installation, or remove "windows.old"? I've seen folks say that one or the other will delete the install.esd file. So far (I just checked), mine remains intact.
    Neither of the above on both occasions.
    What I did was just copy the entire folder over from C:\ to D:\ before Windows finished installing the new build.
    When Windows finished the installation the install.esd file on the C:\ partition had vanished.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    I'm pretty sure that if you start to copy and there's not enough space, Windows will inform you. And I won't argue the point that install.esd disappears, since I've seen others say the same thing.
    No warning and with hindsight, there should have been enough with space available with 23 Gb free.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    I'm not sure I follow what you did here. I'm not familiar with Nlite and the statement "make me an ISO file from the copied folder" just doesn't computer with me. When I create an ISO of a build, the only file I use is install.esd.
    From the copy of the install folder I let Nlite convert the install.esd to install.wim then had it create an iso image which now contains install.wim instead of install.esd.
    I had Nlite use the copied install folder on the D:\ partition for that. I realize that the install.wim on its own would have sufficed. I just didn't want to take any chance with a proggie I used for the first time, that's all there's to it and it did a good too.

    Sorry if I did not express myself clearly.

    Cheers,
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