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  1. Joined : Aug 2014
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    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       07 Mar 2015 #131

    Too Old?


    Lady Fitzgerald said: View Post
    "Curiouser and curiouser," said Jeannie (apologies to Lewis Carrol). I have three SSDs,—two in notebooks and one in my desktop rig—and my programs load up in a fraction of a second. In the notebooks, which don't have spinners (they are one drive wonders so the SSD is big enough for the C: partition and a data only partition), data reads and writes are much faster.
    I suspect that the laptop is too old (even though it came with W7 - it has a W7 Product Key sticker).

    My desktop motherboard only has SATA II, so I suspect that it wouldn't receive the full benefit of having that SSD in it.
    The laptop is older than my desktop's motherboard.

    I have never seen my laptop's performance with a HDD in it.
    It did not have a HDD or SSD in it when I received it.

    The boot time is ~20s (my desktop takes ~50s to boot these days).
    Shutdown normally only takes a couple of seconds.

    Nonetheless, there are noticeable delays (2s to 3s) in programs and files opening.
    The delays are present in W7 and LM17.1.

    I only use the laptop as a media player (i.e. it is connected to our TV).

    Lee said: View Post
    Holy Cow what i the world is so important that you need that much storage. . .Unless all your music is Lossless, and all photos are 20 gig each. . .
    I have:
    • A huge number of backup HDD images
    • At least 1 TB of VMs
    • At least 1 TB of media files


    All of those files are also backed up on internal and (multiple) external HDDs.

    My PC has 8 TB of internal storage.
    I have 10 TB of external storage for holding my backups.

    Now you know why I laugh at people who say, "store everything in the Cloud."
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 07 Mar 2015 at 19:21. Reason: Additional
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  2. Joined : Jan 2014
    Posts : 246
       07 Mar 2015 #132

    Lee said: View Post
    Holy Cow what i the world is so important that you need that much storage. . .Unless all your music is Lossless, and all photos are 20 gig each. . .
    I'm in the process of digitizing my life: my CDs to both mp3s and .wav (already done), scanning my enormous book collection (over halfway done), all my documents (done), photos (all new ones are already digital), and eventually, all my videos.
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  3. Joined : Jan 2014
    Posts : 246
       07 Mar 2015 #133

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    ...My PC has 8 TB of internal storage.
    I have 10 TB of external storage for holding my backups.

    Now you know why I laugh at people who say, "store everything in the Cloud."
    I also have 8TB of storage (two 2TB and one 4TB) but I have 34TB of backup storage (each HDD in my machine has four backup drives—two local and two offsite—and, yes I am anal, not to mention OCD).

    While I do use Carbonite as an auxiliary offsite backup, I don't laugh when people say, "Store everything on the Cloud." I cringe!
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  4. Joined : Oct 2013
    Posts : 1,962
    Windows 7
       07 Mar 2015 #134

    LF, You do realize that the digitized versions will be long dilapidated when the hard copies are still in good shape. In 20 years from now you will not even be able to read those media any more. Try to find an 8 track tape reader today.
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  5. Joined : Jan 2014
    Posts : 246
       07 Mar 2015 #135

    whs said: View Post
    LF, You do realize that the digitized versions will be long dilapidated when the hard copies are still in good shape. In 20 years from now you will not even be able to read those media any more. Try to find an 8 track tape reader today.
    At the rate my body is falling apart, I'll be dead within 20 years (or wish I was if I'm not).

    Actually, the digitized versions will last longer than the original media in many cases. I have already had some music CDs (commercially stamped, not burned) go bad. Tapes and DVDs also can go bad over time. All are subject to destruction by fire, weather, etc., are impractical to backup (unless digitized), and take up way too much room to store.

    True, all media, including HDDs, will fail eventually, which is one reason why media has to be updated periodically. The same is true of obsolescence; if media isn't updated as it becomes obsolete, there will come a time when there is no hardware to read it. Updating HDDs as they age or need replacing with newer technology is much cheaper than paying storage costs for older, volatile media, such as dead tree books and CDs.
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  6. Joined : Oct 2013
    Posts : 1,962
    Windows 7
       08 Mar 2015 #136

    Maybe we ought to store in wedge writing on clay tablets. Those lasted for 4000 years.
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  7. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
    Posts : 1,394
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       08 Mar 2015 #137

    Lady Fitzgerald said: View Post
    I also have 8TB of storage (two 2TB and one 4TB) but I have 34TB of backup storage (each HDD in my machine has four backup drives—two local and two offsite—and, yes I am anal, not to mention OCD).

    While I do use Carbonite as an auxiliary offsite backup, I don't laugh when people say, "Store everything on the Cloud." I cringe!
    Aye Carumba!
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  8. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 236
    7, 10TP
       09 Mar 2015 #138

    TechnoMage said: View Post

    I've combined several helpful tweaks into the same script, so I had to look through the script to find the exact tweaks that I wanted, to answer your question.

    I believe these are the registry tweaks needed, but please research them for yourself before applying.
    I've used the same tweaks for every OS since '98, so I know that they work without causing any problems, except for Windows XP Media Center. If you have that OS, then do not use the second tweak ("LargeSystemCache"-"1")
    Using that tweak on Media center will cause it to become UN-Bootable. I learned that the hard way!!!

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management]
    "DisablePagingExecutive"="1"

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management]
    "LargeSystemCache"="1"




    TechnoMage

    Thanks a lot! The information on the first setting is very contradicting however. If I search on Google, then there are lots of websites that claim that this setting is one of the "tweaking myths" and does not do anything, while other claim that it might improve performance at the expense of high memory usage. Microsoft is somewhat vague on the subject, stating that it's useful for debugging.

    What are the other tweaks you're using? perhaps the overall performance gain is not due to one single setting but a combination of all of them?
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  9. Joined : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 6,972
    All kinds
       09 Mar 2015 #139

    The first one is just in case you have RAM in abundance and no programs that require PF (some of them do, even if a small one). That could be changed another way. May be obsolete in Win 8/8.1 for it's much better in it's use than previous windows.
    For the second one, again newest windows are pretty good in that field and does it dynamically so it might even be bad for performance.
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