Windows 10: Why SSDs are obsolete

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       07 Mar 2015 #121

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    Apart from boot and shutdown speed, I have not been impressed with the SSD in my laptop, despite it's claimed 480 MB/s speed.
    Programs and files still take 2 or 3 seconds to load.
    I've been very impressed with an ssd in my old lappy
    Not sure why I waited so long
    Pretty much an over all improvement
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  2.    07 Mar 2015 #122

    I don't know about you guys, but I can clearly see huge difference between HDD and SSD. As it happens I have W8.1 and W10 on same computer with 8.1 being on SSD and difference is like night and day, in boot time and files and programs opening. This same FF starts up in less than one second on SSD and 5 or more on HDD. Opening a program like for instance Office Word together with a document takes less time than just the Word on HDD.
    It's easy to forget how fast something was running of HDD once you have SSD for some time.
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       07 Mar 2015 #123

    Very well put, Mike!

    When I tune up a customer's PC, for the first time, I often get remarks like "DANG! It never ran that fast when it was NEW!!!"
    All I can say is "yeah I know, , , it's what I do!" I see the most improvement is performance, in Laptop PC's.

    Even going back to my very first computer, circa 1980, the Commodore 64, it was loaded with redundancy, also called "Safe Defaults".
    I had one game that took six minutes to load, until I re-wrote the Kernel ROM, and then that same game would load in 20 seconds.
    I burned my own Kernel ROM chips, with my improved OS, and sold them to other C-64 users, all across the mid-west.

    When I built my first PC, an IBM XT-Clone, I found the same thing, even in the bios. (redundancy)
    I found DOS to be a fairly efficient OS. Then came 'Windows' with all it's SAFE Defaults and the game was afoot!

    It's been FUN, but I'm about done. Windows 10 will probably be the last OS that I'll ever mess with.

    Cheers mates and Happy Computing!

    TechnoMage
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  4.    07 Mar 2015 #124

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    My understanding is that the new MLC construction crams more "info" into a given cell (16 voltage levels) which makes them cheaper, but more unreliable (especially compared to SLC)...
    MLC's been around for a while and has pretty much become the standard. As far as reliability goes, some older MLC SSD's were run continuously to see how long they would last and a few made it past 1PB. Few, if any, SLC SSds are being made anymore. TLC SSDs (most notably, the Samsung EVOS) and are proving to be longer lasting than originally expected.

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    ...It will be many years before HDDs are obsolete...
    No argument there! Once capacity increases and costs decrease, SSDs will start replacing spinners for mass storage.

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    ...Even at the new lower price I can still buy 9 TB of HDD capacity vs 1 TB of SSD capacity for the same money (or less)...
    Granted, SSDs are not ready for mass storage primetime unless the advantage of smaller size and lower weight and power consumption outweighs the cost.

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    ... Apart from boot and shutdown speed, I have not been impressed with the SSD in my laptop, despite it's claimed 480 MB/s speed.
    Programs and files still take 2 or 3 seconds to load.
    "Curiouser and curiouser," said Jeannie (apologies to Lewis Carrol). I have three SSDs,—two in notebooks and one in my desktop rig—and my programs load up in a fraction of a second. In the notebooks, which don't have spinners (they are one drive wonders so the SSD is big enough for the C: partition and a data only partition), data reads and writes are much faster.
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  5.    07 Mar 2015 #125

    I'm about ready to replace my 500GB spinner with an Samsung SSD. I hope they'll eventually overcome the finite read/write cycle limitations and get it as fast as RAM.
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  6.    07 Mar 2015 #126

    vram said: View Post
    I'm about ready to replace my 500GB spinner with an Samsung SSD. I hope they'll eventually overcome the finite read/write cycle limitations and get it as fast as RAM.
    I would not worry about the finite read/write cycle limitations. You will probably never reach that limit. RAM speed would be nice, but the current speed will probably amaze you already.

    I once made an experiment and booted and ran a Linux distro from a RAM disk. That was really fast but the difference to a SSD was not a world different. Running from a SSD is a world different from running from a HDD though.
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  7.    07 Mar 2015 #127

    As I stated in an earlier post in this thread all my systems are HDD free. . In today's world of computers I just feel that an HDD is too restrictive. . .but that in most cases is just the way I feel, and not others. Live HDD free and enjoy a great computer experience. . .
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  8.    07 Mar 2015 #128

    Lee said: View Post
    As I stated in an earlier post in this thread all my systems are HDD free. . In today's world of computers I just feel that an HDD is too restrictive. . .but that in most cases is just the way I feel, and not others. Live HDD free and enjoy a great computer experience. . .
    Right! As soon as they come out with 4-6TB SSDs I can afford.
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  9.    07 Mar 2015 #129

    On my desktop I have Windows 8.1.1 on a Samsung SSD and Windows 10 on a HDD. The SSD does make a difference. When 10 goes final It's going on my SSD.
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  10.    07 Mar 2015 #130

    Lady Fitzgerald said: View Post
    Right! As soon as they come out with 4-6TB SSDs I can afford.
    Holy Cow what i the world is so important that you need that much storage. . .Unless all your music is Lossless, and all photos are 20 gig each. . .
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