A Third-Party Start Menu in Windows 10: Why It Doesn't Make Sense...

Edwin · 06 Mar 2015

I didn't like that folders were all over the place; now I just have Store Apps in the Start Menu.

strollin · 07 Mar 2015

whs said:

You mean because it was screwed up in the past MS has to propagate that and every next generation has to learn that Wordpad is under Accessories. I think few people would complain if they changed it to a logical setup.

Why don't we go back and do math with roman numbers because that was the custom 2000 years ago. Like X - VII = III or XX/IV = V - wouldn't that be fun, LOL.

The exact same logic can be applied to the Start Menu itself. MS dropped it out of Win 8 because it was unnecessary and bunches of people whined about it.

How about the Charms? MS went away from the Charms in Win 10. Some applaud that, others complain about it.

The point is, no matter which way MS does it, someone will complain.

BunnyJ · 07 Mar 2015

strollin said:

The exact same logic can be applied to the Start Menu itself. MS dropped it out of Win 8 because it was unnecessary and bunches of people whined about it.

How about the Charms? MS went away from the Charms in Win 10. Some applaud that, others complain about it.

The point is, no matter which way MS does it, someone will complain.

Well put and the reason I think that the article in the OP is just nonsense is that we(users) should have options and that's what the third party tools provide us with, options. For some that still want the charms bar they should have the ability to activate that in Win10 or have a third party tool that provides that feature.

Generalizations that are made in an article are just pointless, IMO.

Davy49 · 07 Mar 2015

Hi,
A few day's ago..on a whim, I thought I'd try the 'Classic Shell' software that I've been using with windows 8.1 . It's version # 4.2.0 (Beta) ..per the developer's on the website:
Here's what's new:

Improved support for Windows 10
New ability to apply settings from XML files from command line: (I purposely removed the'link' that was shown)
New setting to override the system DPI resolution only for the start menu
New setting to change the user picture
Improved support for touch and high resolution displays
Multiple minor improvements and bugfixes

As with all beta software, glitches are possible, and it is not recommended for installation on critical systems.
David :)

groze · 07 Mar 2015

strollin said:

The exact same logic can be applied to the Start Menu itself. MS dropped it out of Win 8 because it was unnecessary and bunches of people whined about it.

How about the Charms? MS went away from the Charms in Win 10. Some applaud that, others complain about it.

The point is, no matter which way MS does it, someone will complain.

You just explained why we need options to enable what we like and disable what we don't.

TechnoMage · 07 Mar 2015

It's really nice to see, that the folks who wrote the "Classic Shell" are not just resting on their laurels, but actively updating their program to work best with the newest OS. And best of all, it's still free, without even a nag box asking for money, like so many other so-called FREE programs.

I like all the 'Options' included with the "Classic Shell" giving the user MANY ways to customize the look and feel of the OS to one's personal idea of what feels good.

I can only assume, that so many people who have installed the "Classic Shell" don't know that to customize it, they have to Right Click on the new start button and then click on 'Settings' to get into the customizing menus.
Like so many great pieces of software, just installing the program is only the first step...then comes the customizing of the program to suit ones needs and desires.

I see many programs on my customers PC's, that were just dumped on the HD and never really set up for best operation. Several Anti-Virus and Anti-Spyware programs come to mind.

Cheers Mates, and Happy Computing!
TechnoMage

ThrashZone · 07 Mar 2015

I don't believe anyone ever complained about having too many options :)
Unless they are vaguely written to where the average user didn't know what the hell they were talking about

whs · 07 Mar 2015

ThrashZone said:

I don't believe anyone ever complained about having too many options :)
Unless they are vaguely written to where the average user didn't know what the hell they were talking about

Options can be a pain too. Just think of the 120 different Linux distros that give you all the options in the world but are very confusing for the uninitiated layman. I think the amount of distros is one of the reasons that linux cannot make a real dent in the PC market.

The same goes for programs where you have to crawl thru 55 settings before you can use it. I think for programs and operating systems there should always be a reasonable default case that serves 95% of the users and for the 5% that want to have different options, add them at the end.

Davy49 · 07 Mar 2015

To be honest..at least while I'm using tech. preview, I'll probably uninstall the classic shell software, I agree..I really don't need it.
David

groze · 07 Mar 2015

whs said:

Options can be a pain too. Just think of the 120 different Linux distros that give you all the options in the world but are very confusing for the uninitiated layman. I think the amount of distros is one of the reasons that linux cannot make a real dent in the PC market.

The same goes for programs where you have to crawl thru 55 settings before you can use it. I think for programs and operating systems there should always be a reasonable default case that serves 95% of the users and for the 5% that want to have different options, add them at the end.

I always thought the more options the better. I blame hardware manufactures not supporting Linux as the real reason linux desktops are not as widespread but that might change depending on how people react to windows 10 or windows 10 as a service. The only reason Lubuntu works well on my system is dell built theirs for both windows and Ubuntu Linux.