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  1.    08 Mar 2015 #101

    badrobot said: View Post
    I just also learned recently that there's no rep option on NEWS thread.
    OIC, Thanx. I'll rep them elsewhere then

    BunnyJ, I agree... I have come to realise many detest Linux discussions.

    (BTW there are graphical means of installing apps...Sudo is just a security measure)
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  2. Joined : Feb 2015
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    Windows 7 and 8
       08 Mar 2015 #102

    Lee said: View Post
    I am sorry but this discussion has nothing to do with the original intention this thread was setup for. Linux is not a Windows 10 feature, nor is it included in Windows 10 as an add in feature. As to using it over Windows 10 I would guess that at least 95% of the folks here on the t0's could care less about Linux and its workings. . .
    BunnyJ said: View Post
    I agree.. it's fine if some want to use it but I'm here for Windows.. not Linux. If I want to discuss Linux I'll go over to a Linux forum.
    Ditto. Lets get back on topic, hey!

    If MS provide a one click option to the W7 menu, (double column, list view with jump start) ... Hell I wouldn't even bother with the free upgrade ... and I'd even accept the apps, although switched off ... and just go buy an OEM disk with product key from retail computer shop. Which I've already done with W8 and W8.1.
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  3. Joined : Dec 2013
    Posts : 165
    Windows 8.1.1 64-bit
       08 Mar 2015 #103

    I just want to be able to go to the 'old' All Apps screen when I click Start.

    The whole time I was on 8.1, even back in its beta days, I refused to use a 3rd-party Start program even though I'd always used Classic Shell in Win 8. I persevered with All Apps instead. I moved, deleted, created, and generally ran amok until I had just what I wanted, working just the way I wanted. I got to see the actual Start screen about 4 times, apart from the odd occasion I'd actually go there. I honestly never even bothered to begin to set up or customise the Start screen, for that reason. But I grew to like All Apps, and became quite at home with it.

    Now, they've given us this half-assed Start menu back, which is fine. I don't like it, but appreciate that others do. That's fine too. What isn't fine, is that I now have no option to continue to use the All Apps screen as my start menu. Which means that I've had to re-install Classic Shell, which I hadn't needed since Win 8. I'd also have liked the option to enable/disable the charm bar.

    I would rather have the choice, even if I choose not to take advantage of it, than not have the choice but want it. And the same goes for the Aero eye-candy. Some may not want it, so ship with it turned off by default. But give those who do want it the option to turn it on if desired. And, God knows, Win 10 needs some eye-candy. It's plainer than Win 2K, if that's even possible. I do like the new folder icons, though.

    Just as an aside, I find it humorous that many of those (not necessarily or exclusively members of this group of forums, and I'm not pointing fingers) who derided me and others for not liking Metro initially in Win 8 are now often the same ones deriding people for wanting Metro (or parts of it) instead of or as well as the Win 10 offering. Strange, that.

    Anyway, I know which method I prefer. And this new Start menu isn't it. Now, if the right pane contained All Apps instead of the Start screen...


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  4. Joined : Jan 2014
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    Windows 10 Pro x64
       08 Mar 2015 #104

    I never disliked any part of metro .. in fact I liked it and that's why I would like to have an option to use the start screen in Win10. If I have to hack the registry then I will so I can use the start screen.
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  5. Joined : Dec 2013
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    Windows 8.1.1 64-bit
       08 Mar 2015 #105

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    I never disliked any part of metro .. in fact I liked it and that's why I would like to have an option to use the start screen in Win10. If I have to hack the registry then I will so I can use the start screen.
    I loathed it, at first. Passionately. Never used it in Win 8, at all. 3rd-party all the way.

    But, having made a conscious decision to persevere with it when 8.1 was released for testing, and having gotten it to work the way I wanted, I actually started to like it. And it started to become intuitive and 'second-nature'. I no longer had to stop and think about things, they just happened.

    Now, it seems I'm to 'forget all that rubbish', and go back to a 'new' Start menu which, to me at least, is neither fish nor fowl.


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  6. Joined : Mar 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro Edition Build 14393.105
       08 Mar 2015 #106

    Hi All,
    I just uninstalled the classic shell software from my laptop that's running windows 10 tech. preview (build 9926), I've already discovered that I didn't need it at all with the tech. preview of windows 10. I firmly believe now that windows 10 tech. preview is going to keep getting better and better.
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  7. Joined : Jan 2014
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    Windows 10 Pro x64
       08 Mar 2015 #107

    Davy49 said: View Post
    Hi All,
    I just uninstalled the classic shell software from my laptop that's running windows 10 tech. preview (build 9926), I've already discovered that I didn't need it at all with the tech. preview of windows 10. I firmly believe now that windows 10 tech. preview is going to keep getting better and better.
    David
    I agree, the new start menu from MS is not that bad and I like the way I can set it up to meet my needs:
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  8. Joined : Nov 2013
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    Posts : 322
    Win 7 Pro/32, Win 10 Pro/64/32
       08 Mar 2015 #108

    In 1983, I built my first IBM compatible PC, installed the OS of the day, MS DOS 2.0, and I thought that the "C:\>" prompt was "not that bad". I was familiar with something similar on the Commodore 64.

    But then one day, a friend of mine, showed me how to write a full ansi color DOS menu system using numbered batch files to run the programs on the PC, and I realized that settling for something "not that bad" just wasn't good enough.
    That started me thinking, that what comes from MS can always stand some 'fixing'.
    And I've been tweaking and tuning the OS ever since. The "Classic Shell", is the greatest Tweak ever.

    Just a thought........

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  9. Joined : Aug 2014
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    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       08 Mar 2015 #109

    Lee said: View Post
    As to using it over Windows 10 I would guess that at least 95% of the folks here on the t0's could care less about Linux and its workings. . .
    Maybe that's why Windows/File Explorer is only "adequate" and why it's taken a decade for MS to add virtual desktops.
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  10. Joined : Feb 2015
    Posts : 98
    Windows 7 and 8
       08 Mar 2015 #110

    It seems patently obvious that there's one thing all parties ... lovers, haters, in-betweeners ... can all agree on. We all want choices ... and that should not be too difficult.

    If you want icons OK, if not switch to alphanumeric. How hard is that? It's available in all Folders under View.

    Personally I know how to use Apps, as I use them all the time on my iPhone ... but even then, only a small %. If I'm doing serious work on a desktop PC, they're an unwanted nuisance. I don't want my desktop cluttered with endless apps. W7 Start Menu set up gives me:

    • Desktop/Task bar icons for very frequently used items.
    • Jump start for less frequently used.
    • Start Menu programs for seldom used items only a click away.
    • Right side panel: User for quick access to AppData, Favorites, Contacts, etc.
    • Also Computer, Control Panel, Help, Run, etc.
    • All contained in a space of about 9 x 11 cm, with 20 indexed items vertically visible in left panel alone.

    What more could you want? Unless you want Tiles, Icons? Simple click, click ....

    I can understand MS wanting to impact the mobile market, but why force it on desktop users, when it would be so easy to have either mutually exclusive, or both together.
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