FCC approves Net Neutrality rules

I think more than a few people are getting tired of the way that big government will do things that seem to be a good idea at the time but always trickle down and hurt the citizens of these United States of America!

Control, taxing and spending by the federal government are getting out of control.
They seem to forget that it's a government of the people, by the people and for the people.

Everyone is acting like the internet and broadband hasn't already been controlled by the government... It has. You're already paying taxes on it.

It's ridiculous to think that this is anything but good news for us, the people.

Big Internet has spent a lot of money trying to convince people that hate big government that Net Neutrality is a bad thing, because it's good for them. It lowers their costs and raises yours, because it pushes the burden of paying for the internet on the consumer. The more you use, the higher your rates (and not just because you're using more, you actually pay a higher percentage for using more in their perfect world).

The FCC is not creating a gigantic Obamacare style beaurocracy around this. It's just some rules that dictate that internet providers must treat everyone equally...

I would like to read the 323 pages of the law. I do have some questions though. Will the feds tax just the internet connection or will they tax every device connected? Will Wi-Fi still be free in public places?If the feds want everyone charged the same so how will that help users who only use e-mail and browse the internet? I believe net neutrality will be used to subsidize the big content companies like Google, Amazon and Netflix. I can't see anything good to come of this. The FCC made the law available to the public the day they announced the new law. More Obama transparency. I hope the lawsuits to follow will toss net neutrality out.

Looey said:

I would like to read the 323 pages of the law. I do have some questions though. Will the feds tax just the internet connection or will they tax every device connected? Will Wi-Fi still be free in public places?If the feds want everyone charged the same so how will that help users who only use e-mail and browse the internet? I believe net neutrality will be used to subsidize the big content companies like Google, Amazon and Netflix. I can't see anything good to come of this. The FCC made the law available to the public the day they announced the new law. More Obama transparency. I hope the lawsuits to follow will toss net neutrality out.

That would be hard to do, since it's not a law. The FCC is a regulatory agency who has power to create rules, but they cannot create new laws.

They ALREADY tax internet connections, so I don't understand why you are asking what they WILL do... They can't control how WiFi is used or charged for.. that's just not something the FCC has the power to do.

You're wrong. Google and crew did NOT want net neutrality because that would ALLOW them to be subsidized, Net neutrality prevents it. You've basically got it completely backwards, and are concerned for the wrong things. But that's nothing new, as corporate spin doctors have been very good at convincing people that the opposite of what they want is true.

What the rule says is that Internet, like land-line and Wireless Phone is now a Title II Common Carrier, and must follow the same rules. These rules work pretty well for phone service, and ensures everyone gets the same quality of service at a fair price. And there's plenty of competition as well.

Still to be seen what fair price is,
The minimum speed they talk about is quite a bit faster than my meager plan now the next grade up is wildly more expensive for practically no faster just a larger number on the bill,
I don't even want to get into the cell crap that is just flat out highway robbery

Just for the record nothing is reasonable now why would it be after these rules :/

Mystere said:

That would be hard to do, since it's not a law. The FCC is a regulatory agency who has power to create rules, but they cannot create new laws.

You have to be kidding me. The FCC is using the 1934 Communications Act to make their own laws. Congress makes the laws but the FCC is doing that now with a law written for use with radios and telegraph. - .... .. -. -.- .- -.- .- .. -.

They ALREADY tax internet connections, so I don't understand why you are asking what they WILL do... They can't control how WiFi is used or charged for.. that's just not something the FCC has the power to do.

That's odd because my Internet connection bill doesn't have the new telephone based taxes on it. The FCC is going to treat the Internet like the telephone system and add new taxes. The FCC has the power to do what ever they wish if net neutrality stays in effect. Those decisions belong in Congress. The FCC is not independent anymore. It is a partisan organization run by the Whitehouse. Don't you remember the Obama speech he gave about this subject last November? There is a current investigation into that going on now. Wi-Fi is not immune to being taxed. It is Internet traffic.

You're wrong. Google and crew did NOT want net neutrality because that would ALLOW them to be subsidized, Net neutrality prevents it. You've basically got it completely backwards, and are concerned for the wrong things. But that's nothing new, as corporate spin doctors have been very good at convincing people that the opposite of what they want is true.

Netflix has led the fight to get net neutrality approved. That is common knowledge. If Google has backed off from their early on talk on net neutrality good for them and thanks for telling me that. If you want to stream movies and shows into every house in the country wouldn't you need everyone's internet connection to be fairly large and common? What if you wanted to replace TV with your Internet service. U-verse uses that type of communication for TV. You'd want the FCC to standardize Internet connections. The FCC wants everyone paying the same for the same speeds. I know some 80 year old retirees who browse the internet and send a few e-mails. .- .-. . -.-- --- ..- - .... . ... .--. .. -. -.. --- -.-. - --- .-.

What the rule says is that Internet, like land-line and Wireless Phone is now a Title II Common Carrier, and must follow the same rules. These rules work pretty well for phone service, and ensures everyone gets the same quality of service at a fair price. And there's plenty of competition as well.

OK, explain to me how net neutrality is going to increase competition. Anyone is free to start up an ISP. New opportunities will dry up due to regulations. It is a joke the FCC isusing a 1934 telecommunications act as the reason to create their own laws. I know you said the FCC can't create laws but they are doing it.

I'm through with this subject and don't want to argue with you. I can tell you are liberal and I am a conservative. I will agree to disagree with you and drop it at that. Thanks for the chat.

Far as I can tell creating minimum speed standards will wipe out lower speed data plans,
That in it's self will increase those people that use minimum speed plans,
You can not increase speed without increasing price,
Government does not understand that mostly because it makes all it's funds via taxes/ fee's and not selling goods.

Will less hope the politico type has left for good. . .don't need, and also not allowrd here on the 10s. Lets let the dust settle for a while then see what is going to happen. Also, remember only congress (U.S.) can pass bills that collect taxes and other monies not even the President has that ability (though some thought they did . . .).