Windows 10: Is paying for antivirus a waste of money?

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  1.    05 Mar 2016 #10

    me too,

    4 pc's 1 tablet 1 laptop only Windows defender and firewall for years now.

    lot's of B-U.

    Jeff
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  2.    05 Mar 2016 #11

    aelaan said: View Post
    Nothing is safe, nobody can protect you against your own but YOU. Antivirus is a load of crap costing CPU cycles to warn you too late that you are going to reinstall. Backup your data, did you hear that? Your data, nobody else but you. If you as end user choose to download questionable information from the internet, or even if you just quickly keep clicking yes install, yes also install this pop up in IE and oh please connect to my pictures and what not, your data is at risk. On a day by day experience I get more junk mail and I see more stuff not to click on than is good for any human being. It is what the internet has become, a trap to lure you in. I do not install anti virus software I make sure all my data is backed up three times, once local, once in the cloud and once a week to the vault, paranoid maybe but after losing all my pictures and music collections multiple times I now do not care if I am infected, I quickly put in my recovery USB stick, wipe my system clean, reinstall my OS and apps and the data recovers in the background. Of course I feel stupid when it happens, but I no longer but blame myself. Antivirus gives you a false sense of security, so does windows defender but I leave it there because it is part of the "experience". Once RedStone is stable and ready for prime I will most likely disable it for a while to see if I truly need it.
    What complete crap. What you are saying is like having unprotected sex eg you obviously can avoid high risk persons, but that does not mean even a person you would are pretty sure is ok, is actually ok!

    Modern av packages put so little demand on resources, and are very effective.

    The only valid point you make is regular backups, but even then you still have risk of backing up a lurking virus.

    Anybody who follows this user's idiotic advice deserves to 'get infected'!
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  3.    05 Mar 2016 #12

    cereberus said: View Post
    What complete crap. What you are saying is like having unprotected sex eg you obviously can avoid high risk persons, but that does not mean even a person you would are pretty sure is ok, is actually ok!

    Modern av packages put so little demand on resources, and are very effective.

    The only valid point you make is regular backups, but even then you still have risk of backing up a lurking virus.

    Anybody who follows this user's idiotic advice deserves to 'get infected'!


    Stop mincing your words, just come out and say what you mean.


    Love it.
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  4.    05 Mar 2016 #13

    Defender is just basic protection. It's not as good as MSE once was. It ends up last all the time in various tests. Malwarebytes I have the lifetime version. Cost me just €24. I use it with Avira free.
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  5.    05 Mar 2016 #14

    cereberus said: View Post
    What complete crap. What you are saying is like having unprotected sex eg you obviously can avoid high risk persons, but that does not mean even a person you would are pretty sure is ok, is actually ok!

    Modern av packages put so little demand on resources, and are very effective.

    The only valid point you make is regular backups, but even then you still have risk of backing up a lurking virus.

    Anybody who follows this user's idiotic advice deserves to 'get infected'!


    Agree....


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  6.    05 Mar 2016 #15

    I'd never rely on MS Defender. I feel much safer using a third party AV software. Resources are not an issue, my pc is powerful enough to deal with the extra load. Of course there is no absolute safety and I backup my data and the system frequently so in case of an infection I could always restore my system and data but if the AV software helps to keep my system clean it's worth it's price for me.
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  7.    05 Mar 2016 #16

    Surprised at all the comments that Windows Defender isn't good enough to be used by itself...As i previously mentioned, it detected when i did get a few rather serious trojans and other viruses that i have encountered since i installed Windows 10 last year. It did a great job of destroying and isolating them and trashing them from the system...It's the only protection i am using, and my system is smooth and clean with no problems at all...

    I think Defender is is being seriously underrated and under appreciated...Based on my experience, i think it's a LOT better then some of you here think...
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       05 Mar 2016 #17

    Has anyone else , other than @Brink and I, run the Windows Defender Offline scan(available since 1511(November Update))?

    Windows Defender Offline Scan in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums

    Windows Defender Offline Scan shortcut - Create in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
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  •    05 Mar 2016 #18

    Craig said: View Post
    I have been on Windows 10 since it became available and all i have used is the default Windows Defender...I've gotten hit a total of 3 times since them with some pretty bad stuff (mostly trojans) and defender worked flawlessly...I was notified by windows notification center about it right away and Defender proceeded to knock them cold and isolate them...

    Then all i had to do was manually request that it trash them, and DONE...So i have total confidence that Defender at this point in time, works so well, that nothing else is really needed...:)
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  •    05 Mar 2016 #19

    I haven't paid for AV software in 15 years + and my PC and laptop are both fine.
    every now and then I do a online scan with one of the big names just as a check and never anything.
    you really have to be incredibly silly and use dodgy sites or software to get anything.
    Common sense is also a big help.
    Most of the Av company's use scare tactics to get you to buy there software, it really is blown out of all proportion
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