Is paying for antivirus a waste of money?

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  1. Posts : 3,367
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       #180

    Here I found backing things up as I go along on separate drives will tend to go much further then OneDrive or any other Cloud option. If you are not able to resync things later with the Cloud backup then what? All your materials are then stuck in some form of Limbo out on the web! Here I keep multiple backups on different drives and even some things on more then one machine including system image backups for others that seem to have more problems?
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       #181

    Night Hawk said:
    Here I found backing things up as I go along on separate drives will tend to go much further then OneDrive or any other Cloud option. If you are not able to resync things later with the Cloud backup then what? All your materials are then stuck in some form of Limbo out on the web! Here I keep multiple backups on different drives and even some things on more then one machine including system image backups for others that seem to have more problems?
    I simply manually update the files on the cloud when I need to perform a back up and there is no issue.
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       #182

    BunnyJ said:
    I simply manually update the files on the cloud when I need to perform a back up and there is no issue.
    The stuff I have here can't simply be stuffed onto a server somewhere and forgotten about but has to be available locally at any time. If there are any ISP bad hair days all the files are still right here and ready 24/7! not in limbo out on the web unavailable until...? Eventually I may even get around to see a home server setup which will take up a lot of the excess!
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       #183

    I haven't payed for Antivirus in a while. I used Norton, but it didn't like hibernation/fast boot and failed to properly do a quick scan automatically since Windows 8. Not sure how it's running on Windows 10, it's probably fixed by now. I don't know, I don't visit many websites, all of them are "safe" with quotations, and I don't use Java or Flash (both are disabled). I think I'm just sticking with the provided Windows Antivirus, do regular backup and think before acting & whatnot. It's been treating me well so far. *knock on Wood*
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       #184

    That can work until you need to look something up on the web and ooops! you run into a nasty! And that is precisely where 99.9999....% of the bugs are to be found! Windows Defender just like the rest of the av program lacking firewall and web filtering protections are more or less open gateways for something to land on your machine and then it's all "After the Fact" not prevention!

    In years past any web filtering may have been seen with an addon toolbar intended for IE which had been risky with 6.0 for a long time before IE 7.0 was an improvement just prior to Vista's launch! Despite improvements in browsers overall as far as adding filtering in there are still plenty of ambushes that come gift wrapped as something else! And as far as "Safe Sites" just don't click on anything strange in your inbox! Your inbox is safe too but not what may end up in it.
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       #185

    Night Hawk said:
    The stuff I have here can't simply be stuffed onto a server somewhere and forgotten about but has to be available locally at any time. If there are any ISP bad hair days all the files are still right here and ready 24/7! not in limbo out on the web unavailable until...? Eventually I may even get around to see a home server setup which will take up a lot of the excess!
    I highly doubt that your concerns are warranted. My data/projects are on my local HDD and I use the cloud for disaster recovery and I don't worry about ISP outages. That's not going to happen and if there are wide spread outages then we have bigger concerns I would suspect.
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       #186

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    dencal said:
    You could use the inbuilt facility "OneDrive" for backups....that is assuming you are not a member of the TFH brigade.
    BunnyJ said:
    I totally agree and I backup things to Google.drive. It's the best way I think to make sure your data is backed up.
    You guys must have spectacular Internet bandwidth.

    With our network speed, it would tale ~2.5 days to upload a backup OS image (27 GB) and ~12 hours to download it again.

    It would be a pointless exercise trying to upload backup images of my personal files partitions (Documents, Pictures and Music).
    It would take an additional ~11 days.
    A backup image of my Video partition would take over a month!
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       #187

    Well that's the thing someone wasn't looking at far as who has what type of connection. Some believe it or not are still on dial-up! Others will be seeing free WiFi while home user see dsl or cable if not satellite. Gets a bit clumsy when you have a slower connection as far as Cloud coverage goes doesn't it?!

    Lately when seeing an image made off of a laptop to an external drive by way of usb and 3.0 isn't any help either! the time factor may be 28hrs.! Fortunately the new 10 laptop went a bit faster being brand new then the old 7 upgraded to 10 unit! The fact that I increased the local capacity was what made that possible considering the other images being stored for people here as well and why a home server is starting to look even more practical in the long term.

    "Backing up the backups made of the backups of the backups made of the backup.... "
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       #188

    lehnerus2000 said:
    You guys must have spectacular Internet bandwidth.

    With our network speed, it would tale ~2.5 days to upload a backup OS image (27 GB) and ~12 hours to download it again.

    It would be a pointless exercise trying to upload backup images of my personal files partitions (Documents, Pictures and Music).
    It would take an additional ~11 days.
    A backup image of my Video partition would take over a month!
    I only back up 1-3 gig files at a time and I use DVD's for things like backups and ISO's.
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       #189

    Speaking of Security Google is now offering a whopping $100,000 to anyone who can break their security remotely on their Chromebooks! Google: We'll pay $100k if you can hack a Chromebook remotely | ZDNet
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