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  1.    14 Mar 2016 #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    Thanks DooGie Just so you know, one of my other paid ones is ..... SuperAntiSpyware bought it also long time ago, has lifetime license. Take Care, Mike
    Yes I bought my SuperAntiSpyware license when you got a lifetime one. Always good to keep around and run occasionally. seems to pick up more tracking cookies than anything else though. Must mean I have a clean PC
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  2.    14 Mar 2016 #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there.

    With ANY AV software - Back tests are 100% USELESS - since a new threat may appear at any time rendering past results meaningless.

    Personally I rely on Windows defender and BRAIN - and have never had a problem -- if you however want to install these things then by all means do so -- however please don't be influenced by analytical tests or comparison tests published in magazines or online -- these are all OUT OF DATE by the time you read them - remember a new threat could appear at ANY time where a recommended product doesn't pick it up and one lower down the chain does.

    Actually more people tend to use other things for surfing such as tablets / phones etc these days so when they are actually USING their main computers it's probably for things like streaming / Office work etc so the chances of it becoming infected are far less these days.

    I'd be more concerned with things Software can't control -- for example "Subscription Traps" -- even when you buy something with Amazon - be very careful what you click - you might find your self saddled with an unwanted subscription to Amazon Prime for example (approx. 85 EUR / USD) even if you only wanted one 3 USD cable !!! and it's a real pain to get rid of it. No AV software can help against those types of things.

    I'm not sure what protection ANDROID has but it seems that with the number of Android devices in daily use there aren't many reports of people needing or even using AV software on Android. Of course "In App purchases" is a trick to get people to part with their money or people who give out passwords / other info on the net but AV software can't really help against that.

    I don't believe these days that Windows is really so fundamentally "insecure" compared with Android (or other Linux distros in general) as the whole nature of OS'es has come a long way since the early versions of Windows and online threats were essentially unknown -- however again it's up to you - but watch out for SCAMS which part you from your money - these can only be stopped by using BRAIN rather than relying on AV software for protection.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Haven't had any problems with Amazon Prime here presently on the trial that got extended for an additional when an order was late! After that order for an 18650 flashlight battery put on credit was found to have been a Chinese seller explaining the delay! Their service at least domestically here has been very good.

    As for Windows Defender that offers a degree of local on pc type protection while not an effective prevention mechanism. Once the av software here was shutdown for the 4-5hrs. in order to work with install.esd file conversion WD should have flagged but didn't the bug that went on like a regular software installer. The web filtering included in the "paid for" type softwares however would have screened the source site before it even got on. The one time the av is left off "SURPRISE!"...

    In your case you haven't actually been running the same type of web searches or have been running into the same sites otherwise you would have had a few already. And as for reviews you can find any for any program that put a particular program as Uno Numero #1 Top Choice and then next review will have McA Fail listed as #1 and next Kaspersky or some other program which is why I mentioned before I never even go by the reviews but by what works here. Apparently you found what works for you there.
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  3.    15 Mar 2016 #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    So someone says Android is the worst for Malware -- can't say I've noticed a load of people complaining about their phones being riddled with malware and I haven't seen any "Chapter and Verse " references to people with a load of Android infections. Getting caught by SCAMS is a different matter entirely though.
    I've read articles on ZDNet (and other places) talking about Android malware.
    I suspect that it is mostly Trojan Apps.

    Until recently, I don't recall seeing many articles about iPhone malware.
    There were plenty about various iPhone construction/design issues.

    I don't have a Smart Phone, so I've never seen any Android or iOS malware.

    OTOH, I haven't seen any actual malware on my XP & W7 installs for a long time (2+ years?).
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  4.    15 Mar 2016 #174
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    Tip of the day!!!

    Go download yourselves a clean copy of: Tencent PC Manager and keep it updated at all times and a copy of Malwarebytes run both back to back and you cant buy anything better for Widows 8 or Windows 10


    Tencent PC Manager is free by the way and very protective and very lean on your Ram

    Been using this combo for years and never had one virus or hit/contamination ever...

    keep in mind it will unable your Windows Defender just a reminder...

    Enjoy!
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  5.    15 Mar 2016 #175
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    Since we were just talking about safe surfing a while ago, this one makes a good example:

    Malvertising Campaign Hits MSN, NYT, BBC, AOL, NFL Websites
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  6.    15 Mar 2016 #176
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    Now you see why investing in "Prevention" not local detection once infected with something is why anyone would shop for a retail program that sees regular support with continually updated definitions coming in. Running multiple programs can only go so far since things are not insync while having a single program that will offer more options often will see better results.

    Keeping a good firewall as well as web security in place are the two strong points to be looking at to "avoid" not "wait until" to find out how good any program is. The $120 paid here provided 5 pcs a full 10yrs. of protection compared to spending $40 or so every second year to renew a subscription or buy new again.

    The only reason I was even to see the malware app slip on the other day was simply from having any web filtering or firewall running when going to run a web search. So even when having an effective protection you can still get zinged at times! The av side locally only found traces and even named what to look for while later found in the Programs & Features where you look for any regular program.

    The Softpedia report there is actually a good example of how malware writers are getting even more clever on how they operate! There's big money involved these days!

    PC World just had a recent security article that offers a few other suggests. That gets into the Tor project and cloaking your browser as well as encrypting communications and being more or less proactive. Online privacy: 3 ways to ward off cyber criminals and snoops | PCWorld
    Last edited by Night Hawk; 15 Mar 2016 at 21:46. Reason: additional information added
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  7.    16 Mar 2016 #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    I've read articles on ZDNet (and other places) talking about Android malware.
    I suspect that it is mostly Trojan Apps.

    Until recently, I don't recall seeing many articles about iPhone malware.
    There were plenty about various iPhone construction/design issues.

    I don't have a Smart Phone, so I've never seen any Android or iOS malware.

    OTOH, I haven't seen any actual malware on my XP & W7 installs for a long time (2+ years?).
    I have Android smartphones and a 4K Sony Andoid TV ,the Roku's run Brightscript and IIRC the PS3 is a Cell OS, which is believed to be a fork of FreeBSD or something like that and 4 Windows10 PC's here at the crib this one dual boots Windows 10 Insider test builds and 10586th2 and another one dual boots W10 -10586th2 or Linux Ubuntu The other 2PC are regular Windows 10 10586th2 .
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  8.    16 Mar 2016 #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by timerity View Post
    What then is the reason you have backups if not to recover your missing/damaged files after a virus/malware attack. I'm missing something obviously.
    Reasons for backups? CPU failure, mem failure, HDD failure, Power supply failure, etc, etc,. All real threats to your data, and probably more common than Virus attacks!

    Bob Frost
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  9.    16 Mar 2016 #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobfrost View Post
    Reasons for backups? CPU failure, mem failure, HDD failure, Power supply failure, etc, etc,. All real threats to your data, and probably more common than Virus attacks! Bob Frost
    You could use the inbuilt facility "OneDrive" for backups....that is assuming you are not a member of the TFH brigade.
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  10.    16 Mar 2016 #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    You could use the inbuilt facility "OneDrive" for backups....that is assuming you are not a member of the TFH brigade.
    I totally agree and I backup things to Google.drive. It's the best way I think to make sure your data is backed up.

    Just my 2c..
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