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  1.    28 Feb 2016 #1
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    Windows 10 Cumulative Updates Will Reset Default Apps


    Microsoft has confirmed that the latest Windows 10 cumulative update, KB3135173, resets the default apps after installation, and it looks like future updates will do so to after deployment.
    And the company has a reason.
    It’s not because Redmond wants its programs to be used again by users — programs including the brand new Microsoft Edge web browser. Apparently, it all comes down to the fact that it spotted some third-party tools messing with the system.
    Source:
    Windows 10 Cumulative Updates Will Reset Default Apps - Windows 10 News and Updates
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  2.    28 Feb 2016 #2
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    It seems as Microsoft is in a war with the third party app makers who mess with settings, time for perhaps a third party tool that undoes what Microsoft has undone, and what everyone thought was a 'bug' really isn't it was done on purpose.

    I'm interested to see how all this plays out or whether to regain real control of our computers a new O.S. is needed, one thing I am certain of is that stealthy re-setting user made choices was certainly not high on the list of consumer feedback wants.
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  3.    28 Feb 2016 #3
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    Strangely enough, when I installed the latest cumulative update yesterday (after restoring a recent image), none of my default app settings were changed at all, they remained as I had set them. So I'm not sure what to make of that....
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  4.    28 Feb 2016 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerodo View Post
    Strangely enough, when I installed the latest cumulative update yesterday (after restoring a recent image), none of my default app settings were changed at all, they remained as I had set them. So I'm not sure what to make of that....
    From what I gather from the article it seems to target settings changed by third party apps, or at least third party apps that delete or alter registry settings
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  5.    28 Feb 2016 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooburner View Post
    From what I gather from the article it seems to target settings changed by third party apps, or at least third party apps that delete or alter registry settings
    Ok, that makes more sense then. I have not yet used any 3rd party apps to change anything, so maybe that's why. Thanks...
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  6.    29 Feb 2016 #6
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    What's next?

    Blocking all non-MS software?
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  7.    29 Feb 2016 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    What's next?

    Blocking all non-MS software?
    It was done because some non Microsoft Apps changed the default in an incorrect or inappropriate way. Making it hard to switch the default to something else later on down the road. Bordering on malware. It's a fix to restore the original functionality so you can actually change the default to what you want. It's a lot easier to just reset them to the original default than second guess what apps you have installed or leave it broken. If you want to overreact go for it. If Microsoft was actually going to do what you propose, there wouldn't be an App Store full of non Microsoft apps would there?
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  8.    29 Feb 2016 #8
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    WinZip users need the latest Version 20 to ensure things don't go apex over elbow with this cumulative update:
    Windows 10 - An app default was reset (older WinZip versions)

    I hear there are also similar issues with IrfanView but have no handy link for a fix.
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  9.    29 Feb 2016 #9
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    Annoy Until Compliance


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    It was done because some non Microsoft Apps changed the default in an incorrect or inappropriate way. Making it hard to switch the default to something else later on down the road. Bordering on malware. It's a fix to restore the original functionality so you can actually change the default to what you want. It's a lot easier to just reset them to the original default than second guess what apps you have installed or leave it broken.
    That is what MS is claiming.

    If it is true, why isn't this forum overrun with 100s (if not 1000s) of users complaining about not being able to set defaults?

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    If you want to overreact go for it. If Microsoft was actually going to do what you propose, there wouldn't be an App Store full of non Microsoft apps would there?
    I was being facetious.

    If MS blocked non-MS Apps, "all Hell would break loose".

    MS is obviously using the "annoy users until they comply with our demands" strategy:
    • Deliberately re-issuing blocked GWX updates every month (W7)
    • Releasing GWX updates that are "accidentally" pre-selected (W7)
    • The entire operating principle of GWX
    • After every update, forcing (some) users to:
      • Check their privacy settings
      • Re-activate System Restore
      • Reset their chosen default programs


    A sure fire way of slowing the adoption of W10 is to annoy users constantly.
    IMO, part of the reason that:
    • Vista (UAC) and W8 (Metro) were flops, was because they were annoying (not because the OS didn't work)
    • W7 and XP were successes, was because they didn't annoy users


    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD View Post
    I hear there are also similar issues with IrfanView but have no handy link for a fix.
    IrfanView works OK on my W10.
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  10.    29 Feb 2016 #10
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    Just another thing to . . .. Really no big deal. . .
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