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  1. Joined : Jan 2014
    Pentland Hills
    Posts : 67
    Windows 10 Pro x64 TH2
       18 Feb 2015 #11

    davehc said: View Post
    Microsoft are two late to rectify problems in the Store. The monitoring, which was promised with the introduction of Windows 8, is non-existent.
    I am not a prolific Apps user, but gave it a go, in order to join in feedback on forums. I chose four "free" apps, and two other Apps at random. All four Apps turned out to be free to try, with an option to purchase. This could not be seen until the programs were installed and run. Maybe I was unlucky, but the other two would not run.

    The process of even browsing was tedious, with about 500 Apps in the "Free" category. Admittedly I could narrow it down with a little search filtering. but, in my case, if I had a defined idea of what I was looking for, I found it quicker to google on a browser, which led me to the same App, but in a shorter time.
    At this stage, MS have my sympathy if they intend to clean up, but they have left it so late, I can only see it as an impossible task.
    Because of the app problem I have been treating all my devices as desktops and install no apps from store. I have found that I am better off and have far less freezes, crashes etc. 99.9% of my installed programs works fine with touch, so why bother with a whole lot of messy apps.
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  2. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,934
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       18 Feb 2015 #12

    davehc said: View Post
    Microsoft are two late to rectify problems in the Store. The monitoring, which was promised with the introduction of Windows 8, is non-existent.
    I am not a prolific Apps user, but gave it a go, in order to join in feedback on forums. I chose four "free" apps, and two other Apps at random. All four Apps turned out to be free to try, with an option to purchase. This could not be seen until the programs were installed and run. Maybe I was unlucky, but the other two would not run.

    The process of even browsing was tedious, with about 500 Apps in the "Free" category. Admittedly I could narrow it down with a little search filtering. but, in my case, if I had a defined idea of what I was looking for, I found it quicker to google on a browser, which led me to the same App, but in a shorter time.
    At this stage, MS have my sympathy if they intend to clean up, but they have left it so late, I can only see it as an impossible task.
    I also found that some of the "free" apps aren't really free.. there is a hidden charge to play. Finding that out made using the store a hit and miss at best for me at least. The way I go about looking for an app is to read the reviews very carefully and see if anyone reports of any hidden fees or any other issues with the app.

    As for the volume.. well there are so many useless apps that it's next to impossible to find a useful one today. When I look for a programming tutorial app they all are very marginal and I find that using the web directly via say, Google, is still the best way to find out any information.

    At this point it might be best for MS to purge all but the "best" apps and start over. That way they can keep track of the new apps this time around. Will it happen.. not likely and that's a shame.

    Jeff
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  3. Joined : Jun 2014
    Posts : 4,433
    Windows 10 Pro
       18 Feb 2015 #13

    I have checked the Windows Apps Store for free apps that I would find useful. So far I have only found a few that I kept installed. I haven't checked the paid apps so I can't comment on them.
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  4.    18 Feb 2015 #14

    Herein lies the greatest problem for Microsoft....

    The have totally redesigned Windows 10 to enhance the Metro Apps, if the apps are really of sub-quality then it renders at least half of Windows 10 functionality as useless, why devote so much time and effort to garbage apps.

    and while I agree that Apple and Android have many useless apps, the difference is that sites you may frequent, banks, stores, etc. have their own apps with links directly to those stores for easy install, unfortunately, this has been a dead end street for Microsoft.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2013
    North West Indianapolis, Indiana
    Posts : 446
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit and VM
       18 Feb 2015 #15

    Lee said: View Post
    Indianatone said: View Post
    Basically as far as I am concerned Microsoft is too late. Android and Apple have the phone markets sown up. I am also not the only one who thinks this was as sales figures sort of prove my point. Why on Earth does Microsoft just go back to basics and produce a Great OS and productivity software (Office, Map Point, Encarta) and Games and forget about this market. Tablets and fondleslabs are already in decline as they were a passing fad.
    What. . .
    I think I said it as clear as I could. No one wants the store or the apps. Those that did already have them in their Apple walled garden or Googles chocolate land. Windows users are plain not interested, those that were bought the devices already and it is a passing fad as sales are declining.
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  6. Joined : Jan 2014
    Pentland Hills
    Posts : 67
    Windows 10 Pro x64 TH2
       18 Feb 2015 #16

    Passing fad? Hmm that must be why Microsoft is making billions out of their devices alone. Wake up - smell the coffee!
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  7. Joined : Oct 2013
    North West Indianapolis, Indiana
    Posts : 446
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit and VM
       18 Feb 2015 #17

    echrada said: View Post
    Passing fad? Hmm that must be why Microsoft is making billions out of their devices alone. Wake up - smell the coffee!
    I am awake and smelt the Microsoft Coffee and prefer either Folgers or Nescafe Gold Blend. It is a drip in the bucket what M$ is selling. They are giving the OS away as no one would have bought it. Like I said the ship has sailed and the apps market is already sown up. The small tablets made by the OEM hare only viable when Windows is free. Now if you are talking laptop and desktop computers fine, there may be a limited market for apps. I have Windows 10 TP and it gets worse and worse every release so by the time it comes out to market I may not be interested to install it. Is it really much better than 8.1 with Classic Shell? Windows Phone has no market share in the USA. Its already Apple or Android with M$ running way back in not worth writing software for 3rd position.
    Oh and please do not get me wrong, I am passionate about computers. I enjoying using them, building and upgrading them and have 5 machines on at the moment around me. I have spent thousands on the machines and software over the last 20 years most of that going to Microsoft for OS, Office and Map Point programs.
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  8. Joined : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
    Posts : 4,534
    OS X, Win 10
       18 Feb 2015 #18

    Indianatone said: View Post
    Lee said: View Post
    Indianatone said: View Post
    Basically as far as I am concerned Microsoft is too late. Android and Apple have the phone markets sown up. I am also not the only one who thinks this was as sales figures sort of prove my point. Why on Earth does Microsoft just go back to basics and produce a Great OS and productivity software (Office, Map Point, Encarta) and Games and forget about this market. Tablets and fondleslabs are already in decline as they were a passing fad.
    What. . .
    I think I said it as clear as I could. No one wants the store or the apps. Those that did already have them in their Apple walled garden or Googles chocolate land. Windows users are plain not interested, those that were bought the devices already and it is a passing fad as sales are declining.
    Please speak only for yourself. I find it funny that there are folks out there who just feel that they need to speak for me. . .don't. . .
    Last edited by Lee; 18 Feb 2015 at 14:33.
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  9.    18 Feb 2015 #19

    Lee said: View Post
    Indianatone said: View Post
    Lee said: View Post
    Indianatone said: View Post
    Basically as far as I am concerned Microsoft is too late. Android and Apple have the phone markets sown up. I am also not the only one who thinks this was as sales figures sort of prove my point. Why on Earth does Microsoft just go back to basics and produce a Great OS and productivity software (Office, Map Point, Encarta) and Games and forget about this market. Tablets and fondleslabs are already in decline as they were a passing fad.
    What. . .
    I think I said it as clear as I could. No one wants the store or the apps. Those that did already have them in their Apple walled garden or Googles chocolate land. Windows users are plain not interested, those that were bought the devices already and it is a passing fad as sales are declining.
    Please speak only for yourself. I find it funny that there are folks out there who just feel that they need to speak for me. . .don't. . .
    I think I would have to side with Indianatone (in most parts) on this.

    Here again is another obstacle that Microsoft has produced for itself. Currently, people have to develop apps for windows 8, 8.1 and now Windows 10, all with different stores. In addition (if not mistaken) Microsoft wants developers to make sure the new apps are portable to the Windows Phone, desktop and tablets. That is a lot of burden to place on developers.

    I just can't see a lot of developers ready to jump on that band wagon, unless they are garbage app producers whose apps really don't do anything. IMHO
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  10. Joined : Jun 2014
    Posts : 4,433
    Windows 10 Pro
       18 Feb 2015 #20

    @ Trust_No1. From the Apps I have seen in the store your last statement may very well be true.
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