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  1.    08 Feb 2015 #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    . . .backup. . .what is that? I don't backup anything other then my files and personnel data, thus other then that if something happens I enjoy the rebuilding of the system. . .I know I'm a little on the strange side, albeit what can I say. . .
    Backup......oh well, that's something you regret not doing when you loose everything.
    You can even lose the backups, so what's te point? Sysprem and imagex/dism are your friends, so you can create an installer image with all of your inportant applications (and Windows updates). For the user data: Separate disks/partitions are just enough, however I just keep everything on the same partition. Still no problem, if I just dirty-install the OS (that is without formatting), because I will still have my files. Only viruses/hardware problems can cause trouble in this case (Yeah, and in some cases the "clean" command in diskpart)
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  2.    08 Feb 2015 #32

    Hi there

    if you have MORE than 1 backup you shouldn't lose them. In any case a windows partition backup with most decent backup programs probably isn't more than around 25 GB -- you could even store the image temporarily on a Micro sd card on a PHONE. A micro 32 GB SDHC card is really cheap as well and you can use one of those SD==>MICROSDHC adapters.

    I don't buy the argument that people haven't got spare storage to store a backup. If they really don't then they should BUY a cheap external HDD. Your DATA these days is likely to be worth considerably more than the computer itself. Music, Video, documents etc just for starters.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3.    08 Feb 2015 #33
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 10,594
    W10 Insider + Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by feherneoh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    . . .backup. . .what is that? I don't backup anything other then my files and personnel data, thus other then that if something happens I enjoy the rebuilding of the system. . .I know I'm a little on the strange side, albeit what can I say. . .
    Backup......oh well, that's something you regret not doing when you loose everything.
    You can even lose the backups, so what's te point? Sysprem and imagex/dism are your friends, so you can create an installer image with all of your inportant applications (and Windows updates). For the user data: Separate disks/partitions are just enough, however I just keep everything on the same partition. Still no problem, if I just dirty-install the OS (that is without formatting), because I will still have my files. Only viruses/hardware problems can cause trouble in this case (Yeah, and in some cases the "clean" command in diskpart)
    The point is that with backup you have to loose at least two things to loose everything, without it you have one and when it's gone .....
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  4.    08 Feb 2015 #34
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Toronto
    Posts : 4,660
    Win 10 Pro x64

    We are talking about system backup and not data backup. Data backup is a common sense. System backup is an instinct. If you don't have it, you don't have it.
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  5.    08 Feb 2015 #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by badrobot View Post
    We are talking about system backup and not data backup. Data backup is a common sense. System backup is an instinct.
    System backup is convenience, data backup is a must.
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  6.    08 Feb 2015 #36
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
    Posts : 4,826
    OS X, Win 10

    Very happy with iOrbit uninstaller. . .works for me. . .
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  7.    08 Feb 2015 #37
    Join Date : Feb 2015
    Northern Vermont, USA
    Posts : 13
    Windows 10

    I also use IObit Uninstaller and have for quite some time. Indeed, I'm very pleased with how many legacy software programs Win 10 is compatible with, especially as I'm running Win 10 on legacy hardware (a 7 year old laptop!). In fact all of my programs save one (Universal Extractor) are running fine under Win 10.

    It's nice that I won't have to reinvest in every computer hardware and software piece I own, just to keep my OS fresh. Microsoft got this one right.
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  8.    08 Feb 2015 #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by BearPup View Post
    I also use IObit Uninstaller and have for quite some time. Indeed, I'm very pleased with how many legacy software programs Win 10 is compatible with, especially as I'm running Win 10 on legacy hardware (a 7 year old laptop!). In fact all of my programs save one (Universal Extractor) are running fine under Win 10.

    It's nice that I won't have to reinvest in every computer hardware and software piece I own, just to keep my OS fresh. Microsoft got this one right.
    I don't know if you remember Vista and driver problems there, but it's heaven now in comparison. There were some hiccups with some HW at the Win8 > 8.1 transition but was patched up soon enough. Most important thing is for MS to give manufacturers all the necessary information about intended changes in DirectX and conditions under which drivers should work because MFGs are the ones responsible for drivers for their own HW. In any case, base of drivers available in MS database are impressive now.
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  9.    08 Feb 2015 #39

    After seeing all of the solutions, then I guess everyone concurs...
    Microsoft absolutely needs a better uninstaller program, now let us see if it ever happens.
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  10.    08 Feb 2015 #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trust_No1 View Post
    After seeing all of the solutions, then I guess everyone concurs...
    Microsoft absolutely needs a better uninstaller program, now let us see if it ever happens.
    Absolutely, would spare ones that do not want to use or don't know about third party uninstallers a lot of grief.
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