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  1.    08 Feb 2016 #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I don't have the finances to be replacing my devices that often. And what I do on my PC's doesn't require new hardware at that rate or replacement. For me, the subscription plan would just be wasted money.
    Neither do I and that's the point.
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  2.    08 Feb 2016 #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    This conversation is pointless. If you do not see any benefits in subscribing software (or in this case OS), there's nothing I can say to change that. Let's just say this: I would never again go and buy an Office 2016 install DVD with a one time price for each PC, to install it on every PC I need it. I rather subscribe it, as I have done for years now.

    I am as unable to see the benefits in buying a retail Windows 10 license for each PC I need to as you are to see the benefits of a subscription.

    Today's price for Windows 10 Home for a single PC at Microsoft Store is $120 (Microsoft Store - Shopping Cart). Comparing that to my concept I told about, I would need $600 to get it to five computers, with less features (no OneDrive).

    I'd rather pay a $99 annual subscription, getting it for 6 years with the same money. In six years quite a lot can be changed, the cost of a single Windows can be much more than today's $120. The subscription price will also be higher but I am sure I would gladly do the same decision again.

    Subscription over one time pay for me.

    Kari
    It's nice if you have 600 dollars to spend but not all of us do. Keep that in mind.
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  3.    08 Feb 2016 #73
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Raleigh, NC, USA
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    I don't know what Microsoft will do with Win10 in the future since I broke my crystal ball. But I've never thought for even one second that they decided to give it away unless they thought it meant more money for them in the long run, not less. That money will come from somewhere, almost inevitably our pockets. One thing is sure: we aren't the ones they are primarily interested in benefiting.
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  4.    08 Feb 2016 #74
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Phelps View Post
    Now THAT would surely hurt MS's 200 MILLION users count if 80% suddenly dropped Win10 due to a subscription model being put in place!
    I am uneducated and uncivilized, I know it. Please educate me, tell me how and why would 80% of the users drop Windows 10 if there was an alternative way to get it, a subscription and a "pay for once use the lifetime of your device" option side by side?

    Do you mean that the users who would usually buy a one time retail license and would still be able to do that really object and hate the subscription model so much that they would completely stop using Windows if that option, an alternative was offered to those who want it?

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    It's nice if you have 600 dollars to spend but not all of us do. Keep that in mind.
    How can you misread me so badly? Intentionally? I said that I would not like to use $600 if I could get more with an annual $99 subscription.

    I can somehow understand you guys attacking a concept I described (repeat: an imaginary concept!) but please, do not try to stress your points by intentionally quoting me wrong.
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  5.    08 Feb 2016 #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by orlbuckeye View Post
    Once you get to Windows 10 there won't be any more upgrade only updates. So you would be paying a rate to keep using Windows 10 and receive the updates that make you stay current.

    Do you really believe that Windows 10 is never going to advance and we're only going to get bug fixes and security updates. If MS decides to go subscription it will be for upgrades and not updates. As for "good for the life of the device". Did MS ever give their definition of what they consider the life of a device?
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  6.    08 Feb 2016 #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    ..... As for "good for the life of the device". Did MS ever give their definition of what they consider the life of a device?
    You hit the nail on the head. I can guarantee that "life of the device" does not include how long you can keep the thing running. When they decide something's no longer supported, you will be on your own. Additionally, I'll bet you will see future optional add-ons which will be available at a price, just like buying an app on Google Play or Apple App Store. In this scenario, an optional subscription model may be a viable option for some people.
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  7.    08 Feb 2016 #77
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    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit

    I actually have no monthly subscription right now, I like to keep it that way. I don't have a credit card to put it on anyways. I would use either windows 7 or Linux system before even paying for subscription. My online stuff is youtube, fourms, Medical stuff, banking, paying some bills, facebook, twitter and some small purchases.
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  8.    08 Feb 2016 #78
    Join Date : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I am uneducated and uncivilized, I know it. Please educate me, tell me how and why would 80% of the users drop Windows 10 if there was an alternative way to get it, a subscription and a "pay for once use the lifetime of your device" option side by side?

    Do you mean that the users who would usually buy a one time retail license and would still be able to do that really object and hate the subscription model so much that they would completely stop using Windows if that option, an alternative was offered to those who want it?



    How can you misread me so badly? Intentionally? I said that I would not like to use $600 if I could get more with an annual $99 subscription.

    I can somehow understand you guys attacking a concept I described (repeat: an imaginary concept!) but please, do not try to stress your points by intentionally quoting me wrong.
    To quote you:
    I'd rather pay a $99 annual subscription, getting it for 6 years with the same money.

    Subscription total fee = 99 * 6= 594
    One time Payment = 120

    That's what I was/am referring to.

    You seem to like this subscription idea for you own reasons and I don't wish to pay every year for 10.. ever.
    ..
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  9.    08 Feb 2016 #79

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    I would strongly consider going back to 7.
    What I figured was going to happen was that the system builds would be issued to a point (where say for example a MAJOR change was going to happen). Then they might charge $40 or $50 to move to the new version, but updates and support would be provided for awhile (maybe one year) for the old release.

    At a certain point, you might need to change out hardware (perhaps a new CPU would require support or a new system bus). I guess I figured it was going to be a carbon copy of the Mac OSX model.
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  10.    08 Feb 2016 #80
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Raleigh, NC, USA
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Subscription total fee = 99 * 6= 594
    One time Payment = 120
    That's the trouble with renting. If you do it long enough, you pay for something many times over and still don't own any part of it or even the right to use it if you stop paying.
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