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  1.    08 Feb 2016 #51
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    Then why have a subscription when I can easily go out and purchase a copy of 10 and transfer it as much as I like to any new PC?? Home would be around 110 dollars and that's a one time fee.. wouldn't a subscription be an annual charge?? And if I don't use office or OneDrive why should I have to pay for them??
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  2.    08 Feb 2016 #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    It might of course be English not being my native language and me therefore explaining this badly, but it looks that you totally missed my point.



    Looks that you, too missed my point.

    You have now Windows 10 for life of those devices on four computers. Your free upgrade licenses are not transferable. In the concept I told in my previous post you could convert those licenses to freely transferable, reusable ones, not caring about on which device you use them.

    For the lifetime of you, not the lifetime of those devices.

    Kari
    I saw that, but how often would you transfer a license, really? And why? Odds are that new device you just bought is already licensed for Windows 10. So why pay a fee to relicense it? Then how do you sell the one you just unlicensed? For sale with no OS? If you restore the original license, and it was windows 10, what was the point of relicensing it in the first place, just to have it in your group of 5? I really don't see the whole point of this unless its a device that doesn't have Windows on it to start with. I actually just see that model as complicating things and being a big headache for Microsoft. What is you license tied to, product key, hardware ID? Do a clean install and the embedded key is used automatically with no prompt. If it has a Digital Entitlement its using a generic key. Are you going to have to do a change key to make it totally yours? Sounds like a big PITA to me.
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  3.    08 Feb 2016 #53
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    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Then why have a subscription when I can easily go out and purchase a copy of 10 and transfer it as much as I like to any new PC?? Home would be around 110 dollars and that's a one time fee.. wouldn't a subscription be an annual charge?? And if I don't use office or OneDrive why should I have to pay for them??
    This conversation is pointless. If you do not see any benefits in subscribing software (or in this case OS), there's nothing I can say to change that. Let's just say this: I would never again go and buy an Office 2016 install DVD with a one time price for each PC, to install it on every PC I need it. I rather subscribe it, as I have done for years now.

    I am as unable to see the benefits in buying a retail Windows 10 license for each PC I need to as you are to see the benefits of a subscription.

    Today's price for Windows 10 Home for a single PC at Microsoft Store is $120 (Microsoft Store - Shopping Cart). Comparing that to my concept I told about, I would need $600 to get it to five computers, with less features (no OneDrive).

    I'd rather pay a $99 annual subscription, getting it for 6 years with the same money. In six years quite a lot can be changed, the cost of a single Windows can be much more than today's $120. The subscription price will also be higher but I am sure I would gladly do the same decision again.

    Subscription over one time pay for me.

    Kari
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  4.    08 Feb 2016 #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I saw that, but how often would you transfer a license, really? And why?
    The average lifetime of my computers is about two years, three at max, then the technology has advanced (my personal subjective opinion) enough to justify letting the old machine retire and getting a new one.

    Your mileage may vary.
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  5.    08 Feb 2016 #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    The average lifetime of my computers is about two years, three at max, then the technology has advanced (my personal subjective opinion) enough to justify letting the old machine retire and getting a new one.

    Your mileage may vary.
    I don't have the finances to be replacing my devices that often. And what I do on my PC's doesn't require new hardware at that rate or replacement. For me, the subscription plan would just be wasted money.
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  6.    08 Feb 2016 #56
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    I for one would ditch Microsoft for good if they started some crap like that. I would only use apple for everything then.
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  7.    08 Feb 2016 #57
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    What did you just say? Are you implying that people didn't have to pay $50 for Windows 8.1? If I recall, this would be the exception to them not charging for updates.

    But that's the flaw in this argument. Windows upgrades have never been a major source of revenue for Microsoft, and the company's shift to the cloud has made that fact even more apparent.
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  8.    08 Feb 2016 #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by vgchat View Post
    What did you just say? Are you implying that people didn't have to pay $50 for Windows 8.1? If I recall, this would be the exception to them not charging for updates.
    They didn't if they were already running Windows 8.0. Windows 8.1 is a free upgrade/update for anybody running Windows 8.0. And Windows 10 is a free upgrade for anybody running Windows 7, 8 or 8.1. Updates for Windows 10 are also free for the life of the device.
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  9.    08 Feb 2016 #59
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    Ah gotcha, could've sworn people were saying something about having to pay to upgrade to 8.1 while using 8 though. That's the one I skipped since I used 7 then upgraded to 10.
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  10.    08 Feb 2016 #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I don't have the finances to be replacing my devices that often. And what I do on my PC's doesn't require new hardware at that rate or replacement. For me, the subscription plan would just be wasted money.
    I am not talking about my case, nor yours. I am talking about an alternative.

    Do you really mean that because you personally will not need and want a subscription option, it automatically means that such an option is not needed and should not be introduced? That the decision should be made according to your personal needs and wishes?
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