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  1.    08 Feb 2016 #41
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    So Kari, enlighten me as why you'd opt in for a subscription to Windows 10? Aren't you already running it on your PC's, via the free upgrade? And don't you have TechNet or MSDN keys anyway? What am I missing?
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  2.    08 Feb 2016 #42
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    Oak Ridge TN, USA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    Admit It, you like Win 10 to much to go back. And so do I. On some of my computers I couldn't go back because they came with Win 10 pre-installed. I don't see that much of a difference between buying a new Windows OS when it's released or paying for yearly upgrades. Upgrades, not updates.
    If MS were to start charging a subscription fee I would drop it.
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  3.    08 Feb 2016 #43

    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    Really? $100 a month?

    Just for your information, $100 a month would give you the following amount of Office 365 licenses, selecting a monthly payment plan. Notice that selecting a yearly plan you only pay 10 months and get 2 months free:


    • 10 Office 365 Home subscriptions at $9.99 per one subscription, totaling 50 (no typo: Fifty!) Office 365 licenses (one subscription = 5 licenses to be shared with your family or friends)
    • Each license with:
      • Full Office 2016 suite of desktop applications for one PC and one tablet
      • 1 TB of OneDrive storage
      • 60 minutes of free monthly phone calls from Skype to landline numbers all over the world and mobile numbers in selected countries

    • Buy Office 365 Home

    -- OR --

    • 8 Office 365 Business Premium subscriptions at $12.50 per one subscription, totaling 8 Office 365 licenses
    • Each license with:
      • Full Office 2016 suite of desktop applications for five PCs and five tablets (one Business subscription entitles you to install Office on five computers and five tablets)
      • 1 TB of OneDrive for Business storage
      • MS Exchange email services
      • Use of your own domain (emails and website)
      • Live online co-authoring Office documents (through Skype for Business)
      • And so on...

    • Office 365 for Business


    Let's stay real here. I understand that when the figures do not support your opinion, you have to exaggerate them to make your point but in doing so there's a risk you will get caught.

    Kari
    You totally, TOTALLY, misunderstood what I was saying, or I didn't state it clearly enough.

    ALL of my subscriptions came to about $100.00 a month (which Office 365 only $10) was included as part. Jimbo was talking about all of his subscriptions, so I felt it was in context. But thanks for the long version of all the pricing's. Goodness sake are you a Negative Nancy or what, let us keep the accusations to a minimum please.
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  4.    08 Feb 2016 #44
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    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    So Kari, enlighten me as why you'd opt in for a subscription to Windows 10? Aren't you already running it on your PC's, via the free upgrade? And don't you have TechNet or MSDN keys anyway? What am I missing?
    I would like to see for instance this kind of subscription option, keeping on my mind that Windows 10 is meant to be used and gives the most with an MS Account making OneDrive a viable to store my stuff. Based on O365 Home subscription, one subscription = 5 licenses:

    Windows 10 & 1 TB OneDrive

    • Unlimited re-installs on max 5 registered device
    • 24/7 phone support
    • No need to subscribe Office 365 if Office Online is enough, yet enough online storage for all user data
    • If the user also wants Office 365 and Office desktop apps, this would be with a reduced price with an additional 1 TB OneDrive storage

    Ideally this would be used with pre-installed OEM Windows; I buy a new laptop with pre-installed Windows 10, which is free for me to use the full lifetime of that laptop, but at any given time I could upgrade to Windows 10 subscription, kind of "releasing" the OEM license, converting it to a reusable retail subscription license which would allow me to have it installed on 5 devices as I want to. Buy a new PC but all your 5 licenses have been used, no problem: unregister one of old licenses / installs, register the license on new PC and so on.

    In my opinion a totally acceptable price for that could be $99 a year (Windows 10 subscription, 5 licenses, 5 devices, 1 TB OneDrive) or $169 a year (Windows 10 subscription with additional O365 subscription, 2 TB OneDrive, 5 licenses, 5 devices).

    I would subscribe this in about 15 seconds later I had learned about it being possible.

    Kari
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  5.    08 Feb 2016 #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I would subscribe this in about 15 seconds later I had learned about it being possible.
    I've got all the licenses I need so $100 p/a for phone support and one TB of OneDrive space?

    Considering 1TB of OneDrive (office online only) is currently $60 p/a it would have to be pretty good phone support

    To charge a subscription they'd need a new really essential app or service (like Office is already). Unfortunately I can't imagine what it would be or I'd patent it....
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  6.    08 Feb 2016 #46
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    Oak Ridge TN, USA
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    Quote Originally Posted by lx07 View Post
    I've got all the licenses I need so $100 p/a for phone support and one TB of OneDrive space?

    Considering 1TB of OneDrive (office online only) is currently $60 p/a it would have to be pretty good phone support
    I could purchase a 1TB HDD for less than a subscription to OneDrive.
    Amazon.com: WD 1TB Black My Passport Ultra Portable External Hard Drive - USB 3.0 - WDBGPU0010BBK-NESN: Computers Accessories
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  7.    08 Feb 2016 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    If MS were to start charging a subscription fee I would drop it.
    Same here, not just you if that happens Windows would be a thing of past.Microsoft is successful just because of Windows and probably due to this model.
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  8.    08 Feb 2016 #48
    Join Date : Dec 2013
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    I would like to see for instance this kind of subscription option, keeping on my mind that Windows 10 is meant to be used and gives the most with an MS Account making OneDrive a viable to store my stuff. Based on O365 Home subscription, one subscription = 5 licenses:

    Windows 10 & 1 TB OneDrive

    • Unlimited re-installs on max 5 registered device
    • 24/7 phone support
    • No need to subscribe Office 365 if Office Online is enough, yet enough online storage for all user data
    • If the user also wants Office 365 and Office desktop apps, this would be with a reduced price with an additional 1 TB OneDrive storage

    Ideally this would be used with pre-installed OEM Windows; I buy a new laptop with pre-installed Windows 10, which is free for me to use the full lifetime of that laptop, but at any given time I could upgrade to Windows 10 subscription, kind of "releasing" the OEM license, converting it to a reusable retail subscription license which would allow me to have it installed on 5 devices as I want to. Buy a new PC but all your 5 licenses have been used, no problem: unregister one of old licenses / installs, register the license on new PC and so on.

    In my opinion a totally acceptable price for that could be $99 a year (Windows 10 subscription, 5 licenses, 5 devices, 1 TB OneDrive) or $169 a year (Windows 10 subscription with additional O365 subscription, 2 TB OneDrive, 5 licenses, 5 devices).

    I would subscribe this in about 15 seconds later I had learned about it being possible.

    Kari
    Now, your adding all kinds of extra's to it. I see your point, if its geared like office 365 is. It still doesn't add up for me. I already have Windows 10 free for the life of the device on my 4 devices (PC's). The extra OneDrive storage isn't something I need. I could likely find a use for it if I had it, but I'm not paying for something I don't really need. How many devices are you likely to buy that don't have Windows already pre installed and already licensed? I build a new desktop every now and then, but not near often enough to have to worry about having 5 licenses in a pool to play with. I have a bunch of MSDN keys to play with anyway. Even if I didn't, I'd just do the one time purchase for that one new desktop PC. You have some valid points, but with all the free upgrades out there, I don't see to many takers. And most of those that didn't do the free upgrade, likely never will upgrade to 10.
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  9.    08 Feb 2016 #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    If MS were to start charging a subscription fee I would drop it.
    If it was the only option, and it became retroactive , by by Microsoft for me.
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  10.    08 Feb 2016 #50
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    A Finnish expat in Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by lx07 View Post
    I've got all the licenses I need so $100 p/a for phone support and one TB of OneDrive space?

    Considering 1TB of OneDrive (office online only) is currently $60 p/a it would have to be pretty good phone support

    To charge a subscription they'd need a new really essential app or service (like Office is already). Unfortunately I can't imagine what it would be or I'd patent it....
    It might of course be English not being my native language and me therefore explaining this badly, but it looks that you totally missed my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    It still doesn't add up for me. I already have Windows 10 free for the life of the device on my 4 devices (PC's)..
    Looks that you, too missed my point.

    You have now Windows 10 for life of those devices on four computers. Your free upgrade licenses are not transferable. In the concept I told in my previous post you could convert those licenses to freely transferable, reusable ones, not caring about on which device you use them.

    For the lifetime of you, not the lifetime of those devices.

    Kari
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