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  1. Joined : Jan 2014
    Washington
    Posts : 302
    Windows 10 10586
       08 Feb 2015 #41

    Instead of speculating on the why's or why not's, why doesn't someone actually do some research and have some polling based on the general PC user demographic to ACTUALLY see why people don't upgrade?

    I'll speculate a reason why not, they don't even know there's newer stuff out there. I remembered just now about how a few years ago, I was helping some folks out with their desktop that had Xp that ran like an old dog, even the BIOS took all week just to do the POSTing, geez. I mentioned that Windows 7 would probably run more smoothly on their system and they responded with, "What's Windows 7? Isn't Xp the thing these days?"
    That was definitely a moment of disbelief...
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  2. Joined : Mar 2014
    Cape Breton Nova Scotia ,Canada
    Posts : 2,919
    insider build 10586.3 win10 pro 64
       08 Feb 2015 #42

    Coke Robot said: View Post
    Instead of speculating on the why's or why not's, why doesn't someone actually do some research and have some polling based on the general PC user demographic to ACTUALLY see why people don't upgrade?

    I'll speculate a reason why not, they don't even know there's newer stuff out there. I remembered just now about how a few years ago, I was helping some folks out with their desktop that had Xp that ran like an old dog, even the BIOS took all week just to do the POSTing, geez. I mentioned that Windows 7 would probably run more smoothly on their system and they responded with, "What's Windows 7? Isn't Xp the thing these days?"
    That was definitely a moment of disbelief...
    and a large number of computer users today ,have no idea there is a win10 on its way ,and a good number of them are still using winxp
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  3. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       08 Feb 2015 #43

    I've been under the impression that the majority of PC/Computer users just stick with the OS that comes with the PC/Computer. The thought of upgrading to a new OS just never enters their minds.

    Just my 2c
    Jeff
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  4. Joined : Mar 2014
    Cape Breton Nova Scotia ,Canada
    Posts : 2,919
    insider build 10586.3 win10 pro 64
       08 Feb 2015 #44

    not only dose it not enter there minds ,for the most don't even it possible .I see this everyday.

    topics like this allways remind me of the day a few years back when a lady came to the computer repair shop to pick up he computer ,and the tech took her out back to show her how well her computer was working now ,
    took 10 minutes or more to convince her that she didn't need to take home the shop's monitor as all her info was on the tower and not the monitor
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       08 Feb 2015 #45

    You underscored the necessity of Windows 8 to the crisply designed live tile. That is what the Windows PC, even macs for that matter, have basically come to; a mix of internet based usage with some local file based usage but the internet based stuff takes dominance. This is actually something I've found doing deployments of Windows 8 and explaining to people why things changed the way they did and the first question I always ask is, "What is the first thing you do when you turn on your PC, or your first program?" Literally, about 9 times out of 10 is starting an internet browser with 1 out 10 times being something that isn't a browser. From there it's either email or facetubes or something just internet based. That's nice and all, but having a singular window open with eight or more tabs open isn't the most effective way of doing things. An operating system built upon the concept of programs first and files first doesn't do internet first that well, hence why Windows 8 happened the way it did. It took your different browser tabs (or at least attempted) and plopped them into a little window on your Start Screen that is alive and feeds you updated bits information at a glance. It's an operating system that's now built on internet first principles. Windows 10 is making it now internet first, programs first, files first.

    That's really what needs to be instilled.
    Coke Robot

    I usually open my checkbook up first. The second is email, the third is a browser. Leave it it me to be odd. I see nothing wrong with having 4 to 8 or more tabs open. I currently have six open. Why do you think having tabs open is not the most efficient way? I have seen screenshots of the spartan browsers it will have multiple tabs as well.

    You did forgot one thing though, Most business don't use the internet when they first turn on the computer, they do business stuff. Like using office. Some businesses the internet is even blocked from being used.


    BunnyJ said: View Post
    I've been under the impression that the majority of PC/Computer users just stick with the OS that comes with the PC/Computer. The thought of upgrading to a new OS just never enters their minds.

    Just my 2c
    Jeff
    I agree with you BunnyJ. I wouldn't of got a windows 7 computer last year if my old system was not on the last leg.
    Last edited by groze; 08 Feb 2015 at 11:24.
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  6. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
    Posts : 1,394
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       08 Feb 2015 #46

    groze said: View Post
    You did forgot one thing though, Most business don't use the internet when they first turn on the computer, they do business stuff. Like using office. Some businesses the internet is even blocked from be used.
    They may open a browser to use a web portal for file access (from their own server).

    In my last job, all of the paperwork and manuals were accessed via a web portal, using IE6!
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  7. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 236
    7, 10TP
       08 Feb 2015 #47

    caperjack said: View Post
    not only dose it not enter there minds ,for the most don't even it possible .
    Most people simply do not need to change the OS in their PCs.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
    Okotoks
    Posts : 8,346
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64 and Windows 10 Pro
       08 Feb 2015 #48

    Going to have to keep Windows7 on at least one machine until a few companies update their software. I'm speaking to you Simply Accounting.
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  9. Joined : Jan 2015
    Posts : 369
    Windows 10
       08 Feb 2015 #49

    unifex said: View Post
    caperjack said: View Post
    not only dose it not enter there minds ,for the most don't even it possible .
    Most people simply do not need to change the OS in their PCs.
    Which would be true if people can tell the difference between a missing codec and a "missing codec"
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  10. Joined : Nov 2013
    Central Florida
    Posts : 322
    Win 7 Pro/32, Win 10 Pro/64/32
       08 Feb 2015 #50

    I've been an OS Beta Tester, since.....well.....a long time, and many OS's ago.
    But through all that downloading, installing and testing, only one OS remains on my main HD as my everyday OS.....Windows XP-Pro-SP3 (32bit).
    It still works a treat and runs all of the programs, even old 16bit programs, that I use every day.

    I've looked at every OS since XP with an open mind and still I don't see a one that I can use with the same ease that I have with XP.

    I never try to get a customer of mine, to upgrade to a new OS. I'm still getting new customers who have XP and the only problem they are having with it is that their HD is so loaded the Malware, temp files and other pure CRAP, that the poor old OS can hardly even run.
    It becomes like an old pick-up truck, with two tons of iron in the back of it. It labors under the excessive load!
    After a thorough cleaning and some tweaking, that should have been done at Setup, I get comments like "WOW, it never ran that good when it was new!". All I can say is "yeah, I know, , , it's what I do!".
    I've spent the last 35 years, trying to get the very best performance out of every PC that I've worked on.
    Every OS has come out with a bunch of 'SAFE Defaults' that can be bypassed to greatly improve performance.

    With regular maintenance, and a good package of Anti-Malware software, XP can still be running into the next Decade.
    That's my own hope anyway.

    So far, the only OS that I can ever see me using as a replacement for XP, would be Windows 10 Pro.(32 bit)
    And, I don't even see me using that, for the foreseeable future, like till the formal full release hits the streets, and maybe with a few updates to fix any bugs.

    Even XP wasn't really a GREAT OS, till SP3 came out.

    Cheers Mates!
    TechnoMage
    PS: I have successfully installed an old 16 bit (DOS) game, purchased in 1990, (on a 3.5" Floppy Disk,) onto my laptop, now running Windows 10, ver 9926/32 bit. The OS had to add compatibility for the old software, but that was no problem, it did it all by itself. I had the same experience with Windows 8.1 Pro/32.
    With good backward compatibility, Windows 10 might just be a good replacement for XP, Vista and Win-7.
    If it can be had for free, all the better.
    Just for fun, here's my new Windows 10 Desktop, with my old 16 bit MaJongg program running.
    Last edited by TechnoMage; 08 Feb 2015 at 12:36.
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