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  1.    02 Feb 2016 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by zooburner View Post
    Ability to adapt does not make the change good in of itself, nor does it mean you should accept it.
    Please....I did state......This will obviously upset the W7/8.1 aficionados.
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  2.    02 Feb 2016 #12
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    Windows 10 Pro (64 bit)

    This is frustrating. Like one of the previous posters I run Windows 10 on a new machine and any future machines I will of course run Windows 10. But my older machine I wish to keep Windows 7 on it. I like it and see no reason to change a perfectly functioning machine. There are various compatibility reasons I wish to keep a Windows 7 machine within the household too.

    Disk space is marginal on it so how much am I going to lose to this compulsory download that I don't even want?

    Cheers,
    Wayne
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  3.    02 Feb 2016 #13
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    Tried 10 Returned to 8.1

    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    This will obviously upset the W7/8.1 aficionados along with the anti W10 brigade.
    This brings to mind the oft quoted "Intelligence is measured by ones ability to adapt to change"
    Here is another one: "Intelligence is measured by ones ability to determine if change is good or bad"
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  4.    02 Feb 2016 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebuchanan View Post
    I don't understand why there isn't a class action lawsuit against MS over this
    They are the owners of these O/S,s....you are only entitled to use them under licence, on their terms.
    As they are not making it obligatory to upgrade, just the nag nag....difficult to see how action could be taken....they have given a final support date for each O/S, so ignoring the nag nag is the only solution if you wish to continue using 7/8.1 O/S,s.
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  5.    02 Feb 2016 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    It was a bit of sarcasm.. didn't work out like I hoped it would.

    And I would really think that an opt out would be the best way to have gone. I fully understand why MS wants to move users over to 10 but why be so pushy. If the product is that good it should sell itself.
    On that, I totally agree!
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  6.    02 Feb 2016 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by gator2013 View Post
    Here is another one: "Intelligence is measured by ones ability to determine if change is good or bad"
    And who may I ask apart from yourself made this remark?
    I prefer those made by Einstein and Stephen Hawkins, both eminent gentlemen.
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  7.    02 Feb 2016 #17
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    I have using windows 10 now for about 2 months and all I have had is one problem after another and my opinion is that Microsoft has idiots for programmers, because I don't think that they even tested windows ten. Anytime you write a new program or even updates for an exiting program you need to test the program or test the update for a program. I am going to reload Windows 7 and find a way to get rid of the Windows 10 upgrade icon that they put the task bar. In my opinion Microsoft has gotten worse with every os they have come out with since Window XP. I am just ranting know so I will stop, enough said.
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  8.    02 Feb 2016 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    And who may I ask apart from yourself made this remark?
    Can't say but I seriously doubt I am the first.

    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    I prefer those made by Einstein and Stephen Hawkins, both eminent gentlemen.
    It doesn't take an Einstein or a Hawkins to see the obvious. All this rhetoric about change, this is all manufactured change for the benefit of a major corporation. Microsoft made their bed with the various OS Life-cycles and now they must sleep in it and they don't like and they want to move on. Too Bad MS. No!, I don't hate MS. Windows 7 and 8.1 are fine OS's but I abhor the tactics MS is using with W-10. It's just wrong!

    And this is a description of Microsoft's Nag tactics.
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

    Guess Who?
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  9.    02 Feb 2016 #19
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    Here is a Real-Life example of why the W-10 Upgrade process will not be free for many.

    CerTec Software is a major supplier of Point of Sale (POS) to the small business community. In many situations even a planned upgrade will result in some costs whereas an unplanned upgrade could be devastating.

    From CerTec Support:

    CerTek can assist you, but the is not a free service since it is not a requirement for Artisan nor are there any Artisan specific advantages. Unless you have a PREMIUM Support plan, we will bill you (hourly) for time spent to get you up and running again. Please expect $100-$200.

    http://certek.com/kb4/windows-10-rea...e-you-dive-in/
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  10.    02 Feb 2016 #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    This brings to mind the oft quoted "Intelligence is measured by ones ability to adapt to change"
    This is irrelevant.

    I have a device which works fine in Windows 8.1, but crashes in Windows 10, due to lack of drivers from the manufacturer.

    How would being more intelligent (apart from knowing how to revert to 8.1, although that's knowledge rather than intelligence) help me with my driver issue?

    The people who like Windows 10 are basically those who got lucky with drivers - which is admittedly a lot of people, and I have a computer which works fine in Windows 10.

    But to foist Windows 10 on people when the driver support isn't there is unreasonable behaviour by Microsoft.
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