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  1.    05 Apr 2016 #41
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    Regardless free upgrades for life or this special ends on July 29th, MS has stated their COLA policy will also get modified going forward as well " this section determines what and what to expect when you press agree and continue "
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  2.    05 Apr 2016 #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcuraTML View Post
    @alphanumeric.

    I get you what saying but MSDN will change their handling and licencing and control methods, after July 29th , their are some internal emails within MS and First Choice partners who have got the bulletin regarding what I touched base on...


    MSDN products and licencing will be blanked as " test use only "

    Their will be a slew of COLA changes on July 30th 2016 as expected
    I used my MSDN ISO, but I didn't use my MSDN key. Not in that example, my OEM embedded key was used and that got me a 10 Home digital entitlement. As far as I know my MSDN multi edition ISO, is identical to a Retail DVD. I could have used the ISO from the MCT and it would do the exact same thing. My MSDN keys are listed as Retail and function as Retail.
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  3.    05 Apr 2016 #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cbarnhorst View Post
    I don't know if the drop dead date will be advanced come July but if it is Microsoft has to re-explain to the OEMs why. As it stands consumers can refresh an older computer with the new OS for free rather than purchase a new system. That slows purchases of new systems. Not good for OEMs. Personally I think Microsoft should stick to the July deadline for the free upgrades and let the marketplace begin to sort out the impact the GWX program has had on sales after July. There are issues with enterprise customers as well.

    I advise caution to consumers not to assume that the decision (if there even is one) about the drop dead date will be driven by consumer concerns. I doubt it.

    My view is that everyone has the same one year to upgrade and anyone left in the dust has only him/herself to blame. I only held back one computer from the upgrade and that was for specialized applications that will never run under Windows 10. Besides, you don't have to abandon the old OS after you upgrade to 10 if you just think it through.
    Here's the thing. I have a year old desktop on a Haswell 5960x. It's my gaming/everything tower. I'm currently running Windows 10 on it and while I can't say I hate Windows 10 on it, I can say it's annoying in comparison to Windows 7 on the same hardware. That said, my little 11 inch Lenovo 2n1 with the m3-6y30 chip is great. I love this device with Windows 10. Not only does the hybrid design lend itself well to the OS, it does Steam streaming from the tower with no problem.

    The newer OS meshes well with the newer architecture, including the industry focus on power sipping CPUs etc. that are being put into not only hybrid devices, but ultrabooks as well. This is where Windows 10 shines. My point being free upgrades won't slow sales. After watching the Microsoft's build conference, the direction Windows is taking will inspire people to move towards the brave new world of computer devices rather than legacy notebook/desktops for all their work by the 2 year anniversary of Windows 10. If you compare this to previous releases they are on track. Additionally, these newer designs tend to be sealed environments. So unlike the hacktops of the past, over time I would expect a more Apple like environment where the device is upgraded instead of the parts. Just at a cheaper price than Apple, hopefully.

    As for us gamers, as mentioned we already have steam streaming, Sony PS/4 just came out with PC streaming from its console, and XBox One streams as well. I would not be surprised with the rise of the SteamOS to find personal game servers, instead of desktops, in the house in the not so far off future. In addition, you have upcoming cloud based games, such as "Age of Ascent" being built with Azure. This architecture will free users up to have one game machine, or simply the internet, running hard core games on their more mobile devices.

    With that said, it will still be a year to a year and a half before the games/apps coming out are to the point you want to invest. So free upgrade ending or not, there is not real push to upgrade your PC if it currently is running solid on Windows 7. Just wait and replace your hardware when the time comes, the OS price is already embedded.
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  4.    05 Apr 2016 #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcuraTML View Post
    Regardless free upgrades for life or this special ends on July 29th, MS has stated their COLA policy will also get modified going forward as well
    Did you mean EULA maybe? Not COLA?
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  5.    05 Apr 2016 #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by orlbuckeye View Post
    Well we don't know what happens after the 29th as MS hasn't officially said. But if the free upgrade goes away the upgrade process will be the same using the OEM keys. It will still determine it your Windows 7 or 8.1 are authentic for an upgrade. If MS decided the upgrade isn't free you will pay for the digital entitlement upgrade process. If they extend the free upgrade then the digital entitlement process will be free.
    I'm talking about clean installs after that date, not upgrades. If your upgrading from an installed OS your reading the key from the registry anyway. And Windows 7 doesn't use OEM embedded keys anyway? If it's not installed, there is no key to read? Anyway, I guess we may as well wait and see what happens. I know what I would like to see happen.
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  6.    05 Apr 2016 #46

    Quote Originally Posted by AcuraTML View Post
    Regardless free upgrades for life or this special ends on July 29th, MS has stated their COLA policy will also get modified going forward as well
    MS never said free upgrades for life. The said FREE updates which means once you upgrade to Windows 10 updates are free. Updates are security and functional changes. The free UPGRADE offer announced to be ending on July 29 th but I see MS extending that.
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  7.    05 Apr 2016 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I used my MSDN ISO, but I didn't use my MSDN key. Not in that example, my OEM embedded key was used and that got me a 10 Home digital entitlement. As far as I know my MSDN multi edition ISO, is identical to a Retail DVD. I could have used the ISO from the MCT and it would do the exact same thing. My MSDN keys are listed as Retail and function as Retail.

    Again, alphanumeric.

    All I am saying this can be changed and will be changed regarding the new rules that are emailed to Partners and Internal Staff,

    Example: all of the products with in MSDN and keys will only activate this group. and the folks in Ent. with mac purchased services. and the single pc or device user will be provided their own licence out side of MSDN and these MSDN keys will not activate or except any keys/activations outside MSDN..


    " just tighter control and better management this is the primary reason why TechNet got flushed "
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  8.    05 Apr 2016 #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by orlbuckeye View Post
    MS never said free upgrades for life. The said FREE updates which means once you upgrade to Windows 10 updates are free. Updates are security and functional changes. The free UPGRADE offer announced to be ending on July 29 th but I see MS extending that.
    @orlbuckeye.

    I know I just used it as an example " free upgrade for life"

    They should extend it for the rest of the year " if I was them " free advertising doesn't hurt another marketing bill out of the way if they leave it this promotion till Jan 01 2017
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  9.    05 Apr 2016 #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcuraTML View Post
    Again, alphanumeric.

    All I am saying this can be changed and will be changed regarding the new rules that are emailed to Partners and Internal Staff,

    Example: all of the products with in MSDN and keys will only activate this group. and the folks in Ent. with mac purchased services. and the single pc or device user will be provided their own licence out side of MSDN and these MSDN keys will not activate or except any keys/activations outside MSDN..


    " just tighter control and better management this is the primary reason why TechNet got flushed "
    I see what your saying, I just wanted to clarify I wasn't using an MSDN key in this instance, that's all. MSDN or not had no bearing on what happened on my clean install. All current Windows 10 install media does the same thing.
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  10.    05 Apr 2016 #50

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I'm talking about clean installs after that date, not upgrades. If your upgrading from an installed OS your reading the key from the registry anyway. And Windows 7 doesn't use OEM embedded keys anyway? If it's not installed, there is no key to read? Anyway, I guess we may as well wait and see what happens. I know what I would like to see happen.
    Well whether there is an embedded key or not when upgrading the process checks if the upgraded version is genuine. Once it's detemined it's genuine the digital entitlement takes place.

    I'm was technet member when it went away . I had 2 pc's that had technet key that upgraded.
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