Windows 10's Spartan Browser Not Planned for Windows 7...

Mystere said:

ThrashZone said:

Do not track flag
You realize do not track is voluntary for tracking sites.... right :/
Which means do not track is utterly useless

And there's no way a browser can prevent a server from tracking what the user is doing... it's impossible, so the only possible privacy tool is a voluntary one in which both sides follow the rules.

A voluntary flag is better than no flag at all, since that means at least those who are following the rules will not track you.

Simply put, there is very little a browser can do to prevent servers from tracking what you do.. Everything you do leaves tracks... from internet router logs, to web server logs, to network traffic analyzers and data aggregators. Once it leaves your computer, you have no control over it.

Hi there

Totally TRUE.

How do you think Police / FBI etc can get hold of your emails. Hollywood is getting in on the act trying to track users downloading movies from torrent sites -- this is not easy to do but given enough time and resources it's solvable.

Once stuff leaves your machine it's essentially PUBLIC DOMAIN - even though it might not be in Common Law.

Someone somewhere with the appropriate level of technical skills and resources will be able to access your content until it's totally removed from every server which carried the data and any other computer(s) connected to the internet which may have accessed the files too. Even if you THINK stuff has gone it might still exist on someone's computer. How do you think the Pirate Bay torrents have been replicated around the world in spite of TPB itself still being down.

Cheers
jimbo

so my original points stand.
would be nice if 'new/improved' IE of the future would allow true customization - including resizing the address. lotta good it does to alter the bar - what's the point?
I don't need to change DPI - taking a sledgehammer to a gnat.

right about flash - no way to select individually what flash content I WANT, versus all/nothing.

thx

Mystere said:

You didn't mention anything about font sizes. I thought you meant resizing the bar, which you can do. The only way to change the font size is to change your overall DPI settings.

cognus said:

I see nothing in Flash settings that allows the user to toggle a particular flash media window. on/off.

There are settings in Advanced Internet Options...

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You didn't mention what you meant by privacy improvements.

in the 'developed West', all individual freedoms are effectively gone. from habeas corpus to "privacy", without a peep. All federal election candidates, if challenged, will say "oh yes, our intent is to win back individual freedoms" then do exactly the reverse, strengthening the 'supreme soviet' of the 1% - in whose employ they serve [shortest path to riches].

all individuals and entities must pay for their "web access", and that right there is the end of your privacy. you do not have control of your cell-renter or your ISP/rent-lord. A FISA court will rubberstamp a request for all your records to some sub-contractor of a sub-contractor of the spook-agency-du-jour and all your stuff is gathered and parsed in secret, and your internet slumlord will be jailed if he/she/it peeps about it.
Governments spy on Governments also - no entity is free or private despite herculean "security measures".
blackhats switch to whitehats and back again fluidly. today's "malware' hero is tomorrows government strategic 'cyberwarfare' code developer. anyone, anywhere can be framed and convicted of web crime easily - and be totally innocent - and the bad actors that plant the stuff you're convicted on will get away without leaving a trace.
Brave New World.

jimbo45 said:

Mystere said:

ThrashZone said:

Do not track flag
You realize do not track is voluntary for tracking sites.... right :/
Which means do not track is utterly useless

And there's no way a browser can prevent a server from tracking what the user is doing... it's impossible, so the only possible privacy tool is a voluntary one in which both sides follow the rules.

A voluntary flag is better than no flag at all, since that means at least those who are following the rules will not track you.

Simply put, there is very little a browser can do to prevent servers from tracking what you do.. Everything you do leaves tracks... from internet router logs, to web server logs, to network traffic analyzers and data aggregators. Once it leaves your computer, you have no control over it.

Hi there

Totally TRUE.

How do you think Police / FBI etc can get hold of your emails. Hollywood is getting in on the act trying to track users downloading movies from torrent sites -- this is not easy to do but given enough time and resources it's solvable.

Once stuff leaves your machine it's essentially PUBLIC DOMAIN - even though it might not be in Common Law.

Someone somewhere with the appropriate level of technical skills and resources will be able to access your content until it's totally removed from every server which carried the data and any other computer(s) connected to the internet which may have accessed the files too. Even if you THINK stuff has gone it might still exist on someone's computer. How do you think the Pirate Bay torrents have been replicated around the world in spite of TPB itself still being down.

Cheers
jimbo

I thought this thread was about a new MS browser ... which of course no one has seen yet, so it's mostly pure speculation anyways ...

As far as browsers are concerned, I do not use IE much, so I'm not that familiar with the settings, but last time I checked - and that was a while ago, so if you guys tell me things have changed, I would be grateful - the following features of Firefox (or its clones, like Pale Moon) were not implemented in IE:

selectively delete cookies on exit
accept cookies until I close Firefox
control "referrer" settings (yes, that might break some sites)
be able to run separate profiles (as in separate instances of the browser) simultaneously

I find these features important for feeling more secure (I say feeling since these days it's hard to say what's actually private and secure, as you guys have pointed out).

As far as tracking my activity on the internet, sure, if someone would want to spend the time and effort they would find out everything I ever did, however, if I visit a random website, how would they know anything about my internet history if that history is not stored on my computer, I access their site from a different IP, and don't give them my name?

TechnoMage said:

I tried it on my own I.E. in Windows 10 this morning and honestly, it's not faster than my Firefox, tuned for optimum performance.

Oh well, another MS disappointment. I'll file that one along with Windows ME.

Why are you testing anything at all? Close up your computer and get an abacus.

And for the rest above (all off topic), this is windows 10 news HOW?

sorry.... I took the detour to "privacy features" which is a lot bigger [LOT] than browserology.
btw - will new IE have sync'ing?

on android and IOS I much prefer Dolphin. its probably the fastest, most stable, and most customizable browser I've used. smartly, they don't want to fool with a fast shrinking PC market.
I Like IE for youtube, of all things, because it is demonstrably more efficient with youtube. that said, it is probably not true on desktops with dedicated vid cards [good ones, that is..]. Chrome is awful of late, efficiency-wise, but what its good at is speed among a lot of open tabs as long as vids are stopped [flash objects "click to play".... would be a nice feature for IE-n]
its also quick to coherency - browsers in general these days try to trick the appearance of being "fast to start" but it ain't so. FFox's latest is a long wait - take a bathroom break. Chrome is legit fast on the first search or address input.
opera is too slow to matter - that is from a dead start, and apparently no one there is ever going to fix the awful bookmarks management - dreadful.
in the past I hated IE ["internet exploder"] and counseled all my dependencies to avoid - but those days are past for me. no hate. good for some tasks.

no surprise as Spartan is replacement for metro IE no metro in windows 7 so no spartan