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  1.    01 Feb 2015 #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by futurdreamz View Post
    I wonder if they can properly distinguish between OEM SLIC licenses of Windows 7 and *ahem* a relatively popular and highly reliable circumvention that installs a fake SLIC as a driver...
    A bios mod that injects a SLIC table is indistinguishable from a genuine OEM bios (the emulator you are referring to can easily be nuked, MS just chose not to for some reason) - almost certainly a retail or COA key will be required.
    So basically:

    Option 1: accept SLIC table licenses for upgrade to Windows 10, which means a free license of Windows 10 to anyone that uses you-know-who's you-know-what

    Option 2: Deny all SLIC tables and surprise everyone who thought that their computer that came with Windows 7 will get an upgrade to 10.

    Though to be honest I can't imagine it being too hard for the Windows 10 upgrader to ignore D's fake SLIC table. The fake one is a driver on the OS's hard drive while the real one is in the BIOS. All it has to do is reboot the computer and bypass the main OS.
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  2.    01 Feb 2015 #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by futurdreamz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by futurdreamz View Post
    I wonder if they can properly distinguish between OEM SLIC licenses of Windows 7 and *ahem* a relatively popular and highly reliable circumvention that installs a fake SLIC as a driver...
    A bios mod that injects a SLIC table is indistinguishable from a genuine OEM bios (the emulator you are referring to can easily be nuked, MS just chose not to for some reason) - almost certainly a retail or COA key will be required.
    So basically:

    Option 1: accept SLIC table licenses for upgrade to Windows 10, which means a free license of Windows 10 to anyone that uses you-know-who's you-know-what

    Option 2: Deny all SLIC tables and surprise everyone who thought that their computer that came with Windows 7 will get an upgrade to 10.

    Though to be honest I can't imagine it being too hard for the Windows 10 upgrader to ignore D's fake SLIC table. The fake one is a driver on the OS's hard drive while the real one is in the BIOS. All it has to do is reboot the computer and bypass the main OS.

    What if you want to keep windows 7? The free upgrade is only for one year.
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  3.    01 Feb 2015 #53
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    What if you want to keep windows 7? The free upgrade is only for one year.
    you will have to buy it ,when you decide to upgrade
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  4.    01 Feb 2015 #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by caperjack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by futurdreamz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by futurdreamz View Post
    I wonder if they can properly distinguish between OEM SLIC licenses of Windows 7 and *ahem* a relatively popular and highly reliable circumvention that installs a fake SLIC as a driver...
    A bios mod that injects a SLIC table is indistinguishable from a genuine OEM bios (the emulator you are referring to can easily be nuked, MS just chose not to for some reason) - almost certainly a retail or COA key will be required.
    So basically:

    Option 1: accept SLIC table licenses for upgrade to Windows 10, which means a free license of Windows 10 to anyone that uses you-know-who's you-know-what

    Option 2: Deny all SLIC tables and surprise everyone who thought that their computer that came with Windows 7 will get an upgrade to 10.

    Though to be honest I can't imagine it being too hard for the Windows 10 upgrader to ignore D's fake SLIC table. The fake one is a driver on the OS's hard drive while the real one is in the BIOS. All it has to do is reboot the computer and bypass the main OS.

    What if you want to keep windows 7? The free upgrade is only for one year.
    you will have to buy it ,when you decide to upgrade
    That not what I meant, I know that. If Microsoft denies SLIC tables, it could block you from using Windows 7 at all. I paid for Windows 7, not Windows 10. When I purchased my system, I did not agree to upgrade my system to another operating system at a future date, does Microsoft want to give me $400.00 back, I doubt it.


    futurdreamz,
    Microsoft already fixed that issue at least in part. When upgrading from a Windows 7 slic, it will use the Windows 7 mbr not windows 10 mbr. I also assume if upgrading from 8.1 to Windows 10, it will use the 8.1 mbr , not windows 10 mbr. This prevents people from upgrading and still running the old operating system on another partition.
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  5.    01 Feb 2015 #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    What if you want to keep windows 7? The free upgrade is only for one year.
    No, the upgrade is free if done within one year. Like when Windows 8 was only $40 for a little while after launch.

    Though I have to admit it could be a misinterpretation, but I do believe Microsoft has made it clear they intend to not charge a subscription for the OS itself; merely for additional services such as Office 365.
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  6.    01 Feb 2015 #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post

    That not what I meant, I know that. If Microsoft denies SLIC tables, it could block you from using Windows 7 at all. I paid for Windows 7, not Windows 10. When I purchased my system, I did not agree to upgrade my system to another operating system at a future date, does Microsoft want to give me $400.00 back, I doubt it.


    futurdreamz,
    Microsoft already fixed that issue at least in part. When upgrading from a Windows 7 slic, it will use the Windows 7 mbr not windows 10 mbr. I also assume if upgrading from 8.1 to Windows 10, it will use the 8.1 mbr , not windows 10 mbr. This prevents people from upgrading and still running the old operating system on another partition.
    That's not exactly what I was referring to. What I was referring to is that if the Windows 10 installer was running on a computer activated by D, it might just see the system as a legitimately activated system and issue a Windows 10 activation key.
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