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  1. Joined : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
    Posts : 4,534
    OS X, Win 10
       13 Jan 2016 #11

    I am starting to think (not something folks want happening)that some folks need to take a step back, and think it is time to give up using a computer. This same topic is on just about every OS site on the internet. Mac OS X, Linux, Android, etc. Now Boys, and Girls just take a chill pill, and uninstall all the bloat or whatever it is called, and be happy. . .
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  2. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,934
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       13 Jan 2016 #12

    Lee said: View Post
    I am starting to think (not something folks want happening)that some folks need to take a step back, and think it is time to give up using a computer. This same topic is on just about every OS site on the internet. Mac OS X, Linux, Android, etc. Now Boys, and Girls just take a chill pill, and uninstall all the bloat or whatever it is called, and be happy. . .
    +100000 And give the size of SSD's and HDD's today is it really an issue??
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  3. Joined : Jan 2016
    Liverpool
    Posts : 8
    Windows 10 (pro & home & mobile)
       13 Jan 2016 #13

    Well, I looked right through the pre-installed apps, looking for "bloatware" to uninstall, using the powershell method, and most of the apps/programs that I'll never use on my PC or tab (phone, people, contact support, etc.) are so small it wasn't worth the bother. As long as you can uninstall it without going through the hassle of powershell, who cares?
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  4. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,429
    Windows10
       13 Jan 2016 #14

    TV2 said: View Post
    I beg to differ.
    Bloatware is bloatware, whether it comes from HP, Microsoft, or any software manufacturer.
    If it is not OK with you when you get it with a new laptop then it is not going to be OK with you if you get it with your OS or AV Program.
    Some people are very OCD when it comes to their Personal Computers and want to be in complete control of what happens to them. All of these intrusions that change and configure the machine without the owners knowledge or consent is annoying at best.

    That said, if Microsoft is going to stick with the plan of not rolling out a new version of Windows, but simply upgrading Windows 10 in place, then they are going to need to find an alternate way to make money from the OS, and selling rights to have your time-sink game automatically included would be a logical way to do that.

    This does not make me a Luddite wishing I had my dial-up modem back.
    It means I am concerned that we are moving towards a world where you only get to rent your life and you don't get to actually own or control anything - your digital life anyways.
    bloatware

    noun



    • software whose usefulness is reduced because of the excessive disk space and memory it requires.
      "a nasty piece of cross-platform bloatware that's in serious need of a total overhaul"
      • unwanted software included on a new computer or mobile device by the manufacturer.
        "users must initially contend with the usual bevy of bloatware (unnecessary toolbars, games of questionable value)"







    Firstly, the windows stuff takes hardy any space up

    Secondly, MS is not the manufacturer in most instances.

    Things included as part of the base OS hardly counts as bloatware.

    "If it is not OK with you when you get it with a new laptop then it is not going to be OK with you if you get it with your OS or AV Program" - this does not make sense. The base windows apps come with a new laptop by default.

    Do you root all your android tablets and remove all the apps you do not need that are pre-included?

    Do you do the same with Apple systems?

    Whether apps are there or not, does not affect your control issues - this was not relevant to the bloatware discussion, which the post was about.

    I do believe you should have the option to uninstall apps you do not need (some you can of course), rather than resorting to powershell commands etc., and upgrades should not reinstall them.

    The key issue is not really that there is "MS bloatware" but that you cannot easily uninstall things you do not need.

    It is quite reasonable to a supply a number of apps as part of the base OS, as for many users, they would not know about such an app if it was not visible. A 'minimalist' install option would be handy.
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  5. Joined : Sep 2014
    Posts : 270
    Window 10
       13 Jan 2016 #15

    As stated in an earlier post, if you're unhappy with the very few, small, and sometimes useful apps installed with Windows 10 then look at your Android or IOS device. At least we don't have to "root" our Windows PCs to do what we want to do as owners/administrators. Google and Apple make you take extraordinary efforts to actually do what you want on their device, and then you still can't do many of the common things we take for granted in Windows.
    My two cents.
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  6. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 112
       13 Jan 2016 #16

    I think you need to compare like platforms. I hate the bloatware on my iPhone because I have limited space. Vendors are coming out with limited space laptop's and 2n1's that mimic a chromebook(but are running Windows 10) The idea that you can install apps, so you can run offline. This is when the bloatware matters. When you measure your apps in Megabytes, and sometimes bytes, you only want what you need on those devices. If Microsoft isn't actually going for ALL devices with Windows 10 then yea, the apps that are included are no big deal. Since we know they do want all devices, the ability to uninstall all apps would be a huge differentiation from iOS or Android in that device space.
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  7. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,429
    Windows10
       13 Jan 2016 #17

    MrBill said: View Post
    I think you need to compare like platforms. I hate the bloatware on my iPhone because I have limited space. Vendors are coming out with limited space laptop's and 2n1's that mimic a chromebook(but are running Windows 10) The idea that you can install apps, so you can run offline. This is when the bloatware matters. When you measure your apps in Megabytes, and sometimes bytes, you only want what you need on those devices. If Microsoft isn't actually going for ALL devices with Windows 10 then yea, the apps that are included are no big deal. Since we know they do want all devices, the ability to uninstall all apps would be a huge differentiation from iOS or Android in that device space.
    Last point is a good one. Even though it is a pain you can do it more easily on windows though. Stll big issue on tablets really is windows still takes up a big chunk itself of course.
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  8. Joined : Jan 2016
    Posts : 14
    Windows 10, Windows 7, Linux Mint 17.3
       13 Jan 2016 #18

    chunnuhardy said: View Post
    ...Microsoft has bundled only useful and popular apps...
    Really?

    Correct me if I am wrong, but those Candy Crush games are 'freemium' and in app pay to play/win.

    The presence of these absolutely disgusts me and I will go so far as to say I firmly believe it should be illegal to describe or market such games as 'free.'

    Microsoft should not be pre-installing such things at all. Everyone, especially parents, should have the right to block and refuse installation of this garbage.
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  9. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,429
    Windows10
       13 Jan 2016 #19

    Berk said: View Post
    Really?

    Correct me if I am wrong, but those Candy Crush games are 'freemium' and in app pay to play/win.

    The presence of these absolutely disgusts me and I will go so far as to say I firmly believe it should be illegal to describe or market such games as 'free.'

    Microsoft should not be pre-installing such things at all. Everyone, especially parents, should have the right to block and refuse installation of this garbage.
    Cannot disagree with that.
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  10. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,934
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       13 Jan 2016 #20

    Berk said: View Post
    Really?

    Correct me if I am wrong, but those Candy Crush games are 'freemium' and in app pay to play/win.

    The presence of these absolutely disgusts me and I will go so far as to say I firmly believe it should be illegal to describe or market such games as 'free.'

    Microsoft should not be pre-installing such things at all. Everyone, especially parents, should have the right to block and refuse installation of this garbage.
    Strange, but I have 10 and I didn't get Candy Crush installed..
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