Windows 10: Revealed! Crucial detail that Windows 10 privacy critics are missing
To be clear the first post says that Microsoft anonymizes the data it collects. It doesn't say it collects "anonymous usage data". In other words the implication is the collected data is not anonymous to begin with and Microsoft chooses to anonymize it afterward. Is that accurate? Personally I don't believe Microsoft cares about the personal details of my computer usage, but I can't prove it. And although Microsoft may not care there may be people who do, for instance the government. Can we definitively rule out the possibility that data can flow from corporations to the government? If we can't rule it out it's reasonable to think about how we feel about it. There's also the possibility of hackers stealing info from Microsoft. It's not paranoid to ask these questions. Normally I don't think or worry about any of this, but if we're going to look at it objectively I feel we have to acknowledge how little we really know. Cheers
Last edited by Victek; 11 Jan 2016 at 11:36.
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Yes its true M$ are targeting users of Bing, WHY? Advertising revenue, nothing sinister in that inasmuch that making a profit is not a sin.
Try this example...type in Cortana....surface pro 4....read up on it.....then open your e-mail provider or a newspaper....low and behold adverts offering the afore mentioned article appear by magic.
Each time you enquire about a product or service and click on a link using either Google or Bing adds monies to their account.
Bing hope to capitalise by offering nearby services and products through Cortana, assuming you allow (optional) your location to be established.
Nothing sordid or suspicious about that....its called capitalism.
As for prying...they are only interested in making monetary gain for the company.
It was the usage of this notorious Joseph Goebbels phrase - "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear".
used in a recent comment about MS data collecting, that I was responding too.
I wear no tin foil hat and my systems have nothing anybody would want to waste the time gathering.
But I do ponder a question.
How did Microsoft get to be 90% plug of the market share of PC's before they started gathering all this data.
I'm guessing to some degree that the users of older Microsoft operating system chose those system and liked the fact they could also choose how the system worked. What it did when or do nothing if the owner operator chose to do nothing.
Their are users that choose not to install Windows Updates; which to me is a huge mistake but it is their computer, they can choose as they care to.
The fact that one should be able to choose shouldn't be looked at lightly.
Hiding the place and method of getting there to turn something off one doesn't want is not the proper method in my opinion.
Things that can be turned on or off should be obvious and straight forward.
Do you want cream in your coffee? Yes or No.
Here is some info on what cream in coffee does ect.
Do you want Cortana? Yes or No.
Here is some info on Cortana to help you decide ect.
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Have looked extensively on the internet for your above Goebbels quote. (for personal reasons), nowhere could I find confirmation, only a collection of different words, then put together to make your above sentence.
Could you kindly supply confirmation Goebbels made this quote.
Source: Nothing to hide argument - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In his 1919 muckraking exposť The Brass Check, Upton Sinclair wrote (referring to the 1914 Lexington Avenue explosion):
From first to last I had nothing to hide, and for that reason I had nothing to fear, and this was as well known to the newspapers as it was to the police who were probing the explosion.
The expose: The brass check, a study of American journalism
Another misconception, GoebbelsNOT!
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Thanks Cliff for the response, like yourself I came up with the same result, including extensive Goebbels archive research
Cliff S said:
Every systems, on or offline, collect information about you, that's just the nature of the businesses keeping track of their customers. You could not escape this data collection prior to computers and certainly cannot escape it now in the digital age. Technology just made this much more effective, easy to share, trade or sell to third-parties, etc...
Data brokers collect/trade/purchase data about everything and everybody. They don't do it for just to have this data, they perform data analysis about people/companies and the results are sold to interested parties. You might be familiar with "FICO" score, or your credit rating and have no issues with this scoring system. But you may not be familiar with your current/future employer might be using a company named Social Intelligence to screen job applicants. Similar data analysis company offer their report on individuals and companies, where evaluation criteria is different.
Facebook is actually getting in to the FICA score business, among other things:
Facebook friends may hurt you in getting a loan...
MS is in the position to collect much more accurate data based on their market share. They're not doing anything that is not "prior art", it's been done by other OS's, apps, browsers, etc. MS had no choice but to join in, if they want to remain relevant in the technology market. Anyone believing that it's only telemetry data that MS collects is naive, to say it mildly.
PS: Despite this, I do try to prevent data collection about me and my computer with very little success. No, I have nothing to hide, but buzz off...
Unfortunately I must agree with you on that point. Problem is, MS has 100% access to your device especially if running W-10. None of the other companies have that capability.
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Your above post could be summarised using three words......Marketing.....Making Money.
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