Revealed! Crucial detail that Windows 10 privacy critics are missing

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  1. Posts : 17,638
    Windows 10 Pro
       #30

    Uilly said:
    That may be an extreme example, but I still think privacy, personal privacy is something we should value highly.
    How is your personal privacy violated if and when the manufacturer of your chosen OS collects anonymous usage data? Why should I feel my privacy violated if and when Microsoft collects data about how often I launch Edge, how much I use Groove to listen music, how many searches I do with Cortana and Bing?

    Please could you give a few practical examples: What will or can happen to me when using Windows 10 with its default settings? How will my life be affected?
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  2. Posts : 3,080
    W10 Pro + W10 Preview
       #31

    Uilly said:
    dencal:
    I only wanted to make the point from a European perspective, as to why some of us have what you may judge as having
    hang-ups about personal privacy, as being incautious with our personal privacy in some circumstances can have a high
    price, as shown in the early part of the last century, and in Soviet occupied eastern Europe.

    For example the phrase "You have nothing to worry about if you have nothing to hide" is a variation of one that was used
    by the regime in Germany in the pre-war and war years, to dupe the public. That may be an extreme example, but I still
    think privacy, personal privacy is something we should value highly.
    W10 is an O/S that you have chosen, how you choose to use it is optional, not dictated too by M$.

    Any personal information on the net apart from a Microsoft Account (Security backed up twice) is made solely by you the operator.

    So the answer is don't use any websites that you feel would compromise your security, hence my statement.
    "You have nothing to worry about if you have nothing to hide"

    PS I am a European.
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  3. Posts : 14
    Windows 10
       #32

    dencal said:
    W10 is an O/S that you have chosen, how you choose to use it is optional, not dictated too by M$.

    Any personal information on the net apart from a Microsoft Account (Security backed up twice) is made solely by you the operator.

    So the answer is don't use any websites that you feel would compromise your security, hence my statement.
    "You have nothing to worry about if you have nothing to hide"

    PS I am a European.

    Agree it is up to the user, buyer to decide... MS gets minimal from my use of Win 10 (as they have with all OSs
    I have used since Win 95) as I don't buy into the argument they need the amount of info they are gathering, they
    have been making OSs for more than two decades, so should know what their customer wants by now (aside
    fromwhich they had and have with Win 10 an insider program or whatever), same goes for Edge, MS have been
    making browsers a lot longer than either Google or Chrome (and their browsers are something you choose
    to use on your PC, they are not monitoring how the PC is used). Do car, plane manufacturers need constant
    feedback from hundreds of millions of users daily, hourly, to come up with a new one...


    Personally I still think a phrase attributed to Joseph Goebbels, is the wrong one to use...
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  4. Posts : 3,080
    W10 Pro + W10 Preview
       #33

    Uilly said:
    Agree it is up to the user, buyer to decide... MS gets minimal from my use of Win 10 (as they have with all OSs
    I have used since Win 95) as I don't buy into the argument they need the amount of info they are gathering, they
    have been making OSs for more than two decades, so should know what their customer wants by now (aside
    fromwhich they had and have with Win 10 an insider program or whatever), same goes for Edge, MS have been
    making browsers a lot longer than either Google or Chrome (and their browsers are something you choose
    to use on your PC, they are not monitoring how the PC is used).
    You are sadly mistaken...your remarks concerning Google....they being the original master data collectors, they have made a lot of money in so doing using telemetry and metadata.

    Bing in Edge having realised the possible cash cow are now doing catch up, and have joined the gravy train.

    I await with interest you answering Kari,s post...
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  5. Posts : 806
    Windows 10 Home version 20H2 64bit OS Build 19042.1023
       #34

    The truth is they are probably only collecting data to help them decide how to improve EDGE and there OS and other software made by Microsoft. It its nothing to be used against us.
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  6. Posts : 14
    Windows 10
       #35

    Kari said:
    How is your personal privacy violated if and when the manufacturer of your chosen OS collects anonymous usage data? Why should I feel my privacy violated if and when Microsoft collects data about how often I launch Edge, how much I use Groove to listen music, how many searches I do with Cortana and Bing?

    Please could you give a few practical examples: What will or can happen to me when using Windows 10 with its default settings? How will my life be affected?

    If you are comfortable with MS anonymously collecting data,from
    your PC. It is your choice.
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  7. Posts : 17,638
    Windows 10 Pro
       #36

    Uilly said:
    If you are comfortable with MS anonymously collecting data,from
    your PC. It is your choice.
    I asked you to explain this, to give practical examples. Please do that, I am curious. I repeat the questions below.

    Quoting my previous post:
    Please could you give a few practical examples: What will or can happen to me when using Windows 10 with its default settings? How will my life be affected?
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  8. Posts : 14
    Windows 10
       #37

    Kari said:
    I asked you to explain this, to give practical examples. Please do that, I am curious. I repeat the questions below.

    Quoting my previous post:

    It is your choice, if you want to use the default settings or not. I decide not to use them, that
    was my choice.
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  9. Posts : 650
    10 preview 64bit
       #38

    interesting article

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  10. Posts : 17,638
    Windows 10 Pro
       #39

    Uilly said:
    It is your choice, if you want to use the default settings or not. I decide not to use them, that
    was my choice.
    I have to repeat: what are the consequences to me as a Windows 10 user? You posted this:

    Uilly said:
    I only wanted to make the point from a European perspective, as to why some of us have what you may judge as having hang-ups about personal privacy, as being incautious with our personal privacy in some circumstances can have a high price, as shown in the early part of the last century, and in Soviet occupied eastern Europe.

    For example the phrase "You have nothing to worry about if you have nothing to hide" is a variation of one that was used
    by the regime in Germany in the pre-war and war years, to dupe the public. That may be an extreme example, but I still
    think privacy, personal privacy is something we should value highly.
    Stating something like that, comparing it to the user statistical data collected by Microsoft, you should have some real and valid examples. That's why I am still waiting you to tell me what am I risking, what will or might happen to me as a Windows 10 user because I let my Windows 10 call home when it wants, let Microsoft collect the data?

    Was your post just empty meaningless words or can you give me some examples? Give me something to make me believe you know what you are talking about, facts instead of tinfoil hat brigade paranoid assumptions.
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