Windows 10: Revealed! Crucial detail that Windows 10 privacy critics are missing

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  1. Posts : 516
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       20 Jan 2016 #101

    There is probably more likelihood of harm being done by somebody hacking into your wireless router.
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  2.    25 Jan 2016 #102

    Victek said: View Post
    Here's an interesting article:

    Windows 10 sends identifiable information to tech giant EVEN when told not to | Daily Mail Online

    Note that it's dated August 2015 and things may have changed. Without more information, corroborated by third parties, I don't see that the discussion can be moved forward. Some folks are just happy to trust Microsoft but I don't see why. Even if it could be demonstrated that MS can be trusted to use personally identifiable information in ways that are benign there's no guarantee that they won't be hacked and the information stolen. This has already happened a number of times to major corporations so I don't see how it can be viewed as conspiracy fiction. As I said earlier I believe it's prudent, not paranoid, to look carefully at what is shared. It is a good idea to protect personal information when possible.
    You're swimming against the tide on this forum it seems. Nearly everyone here thinks that the new telemetry functions and updated privacy policy is a great thing.
    Years back when Intel tried to introduce machine id's in its PIII cpus, there was enough uproar to kill it. OEM pc makers disabled the function, the EU threatened to block imports of the affect cpus and Intel removed it in later revisions.
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  3.    06 Mar 2016 #103

    Has anybody changed thier views about this?


    I'm just wondering, going in, has anybody read here and around elsewhere about this data collection issue
    and then changed their views about it?

    I did when I found myself wary of the NSA's seeming wholesale freedom to collect what they wish from devices
    and telecommunication entities etc. And now we feel a tie in with these huge companies that make our
    phones and computers.

    My feelings of trust have been there all my life; trust in the government to make the right decisions about our
    inherent rights (speaking as an American) to privacy. It's being chipped away, those rights and my trust. That
    is not "paranoia" by anybody's definition; it's just a view of how the world is changing.

    Apple, Google and Microsoft are big parts of our lives. There should be something more available to us users
    of their products than a few opt outs as to different and partial aspects of their data gathering apparatus. We
    should be able to shut the door on all of it if we choose to do so after a bit of our own analysis.
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       06 Mar 2016 #104

    My trust is still there,
    Look at how Apple is giving the Gov't the finger now. The line has been drawn, so they don't get a foot in the door or a precedence case to go after non-terrorist.
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  5.    06 Mar 2016 #105

    Cliff S said: View Post
    My trust is still there,
    Look at how Apple is giving the Gov't the finger now. The line has been drawn, so they don't get a foot in the door or a precedence case to go after non-terrorist.
    That case you mention is an example of what keeps my lack of trust from going full blown. Apple (and others gathering in support of them) seems to be holding the line.

    But still.. I can't get away from the notion that we really should be able to close it all off. Users of linux and other operating systems and the right web browsers and searchers can shut it off a lot more than us on Windows with Firefox and Google.
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  6.    06 Mar 2016 #106

    Cliff S said: View Post
    My trust is still there,
    Look at how Apple is giving the Gov't the finger now. The line has been drawn, so they don't get a foot in the door or a precedence case to go after non-terrorist.
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  7.    06 Mar 2016 #107

    I think that he problems lies in the name "Windows" as we all know we can see through them and are not very private. maybe they should rename the system "doors" at least they can be closed. joking aside i appreciate the article and completely agree msoft don't care about individuals habits.
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  8.    06 Mar 2016 #108

    dukerod said: View Post
    msoft don't care about individuals habits.
    Well... they (and others; Apple, Google etc) get a lot of money for keeping track of our habits.

    The rub is whether or not they know Joe's from Jane's habits etc, and whether or not they can let US decide what habits to be seen by them and gathered and passed on to other interests. There are a few opt out selections we can make, but not enough, imo.
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  9.    06 Mar 2016 #109

    I don't worry about MS misusing the data they collect. I know they have more to worry about then what I do on my computers. What I do worry about is what info about me are they storing. If MS ever got hacked is there any personal info that a hacker could use? Big companies like Target have been hacked. Even the IRS have been hacked. I just went through a big headache with AT&T because the day I purchased my Windows Phone someone managed to get the info they needed to start buying phones and tablets on my account.
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  10.    06 Mar 2016 #110

    Winuser said: View Post
    I don't worry about MS misusing the data they collect. I know they have more to worry about then what I do on my computers. What I do worry about is what info about me are they storing. If MS ever got hacked is there any personal info that a hacker could use? Big companies like Target have been hacked. Even the IRS have been hacked. I just went through a big headache with AT&T because the day I purchased my Windows Phone someone managed to get the info they needed to start buying phones and tablets on my account.
    Yeah the "misusing the data" they collect is the far fetched concern. The "what if" on being hacked is still a slim possibility, but we've seen huge hacks in the recent past.

    In particular I was surprised to see the "inking" default set to on. "Inking" and keystroke and all that adds up to passwords and anything else we input to our machines using this OS.
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