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  1.    04 Jan 2016 #1
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    Windows 10 Installed on 164 Million PCs


    Microsoft’s latest Windows 10 adoption figures revealed that its new operating system was installed on 110 million PCs in October, but these numbers have obviously improved since then, as more people have upgraded their computers.'
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  2.    04 Jan 2016 #2
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    Windows 10 Now Active on over 200 Million Devices


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  3.    07 Jan 2016 #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumitdhiman View Post
    Microsoft’s latest Windows 10 adoption figures revealed that its new operating system was installed on 110 million PCs in October, but these numbers have obviously improved since then, as more people have upgraded their computers.'
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    http://news.softpedia.com/news/windo...s-498371.shtml
    Hi there

    How can they possibly know how many PC's is it installed on.

    They can get nr of downloads etc but nr of installs !!! -- Even the NSA / CIA etc can't get data on that - plus what about zillions of installs on VM's.

    What they can get is the nr of activations -- so Ms could have some sort of stats on the number of windows activations --and from that remove duplicate / multiple activations so they'd know the number of actual windows activations. Now that doesn't in any way give an indication of the number of DEVICES windows is on.

    They can make an intelligent guess - but nothing more than that.

    These stats need to be understood in their entirety before people start quoting them all over the place.

    That aside I'm glad to see that on the whole W10 has met with a favourable response -- and I'm happy with it too - apart from the perennial problem that has plagued Windows ever since its inception more than a quarter of a century ago --Networking which even on W10 can be a bit of a "hit or miss" affair.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4.    07 Jan 2016 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    How can they possibly know how many PC's is it installed on.
    jimbo
    An accurate number of operating systems could be established by how many downloads take place of the latest update.
    Certainly within the realms of possibility by M$.
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  5.    07 Jan 2016 #5
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    Wouldn't activation stats show how many PC's have 10 installed on it??
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  6.    07 Jan 2016 #6

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Wouldn't activation stats show how many PC's have 10 installed on it??
    Hi there

    Not necessarily -- you can re-activate on the SAME PC - I've done that a few times when I've changed some bits of hardware on the same PC.

    Nr of activations will tell Ms one thing accurately --everything else will be a guess. It will say that at a particular point in time we've got nnnn copies of Windows activated. By eliminating the number of activations on the same machines ms could make a reasonable guess as to how many machines Windows might be running on -- it wouldn't be able to get any more accurate predictions than that.

    Of course what about the initial Free updates too where there was a "general activation" so even counting the number of activations wouldn't help in determining the number of individual devices Windows 10 was actually running on.

    @dencal --nr of OS's downloaded / installed doesn't equate to number of devices the OS is installed on - you can't assume a 1:1 relationship here.

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  7.    07 Jan 2016 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    Not necessarily -- you can re-activate on the SAME PC - I've done that a few times when I've changed some bits of hardware on the same PC.

    Nr of activations will tell Ms one thing accurately --everything else will be a guess. It will say that at a particular point in time we've got nnnn copies of Windows activated. By eliminating the number of activations on the same machines ms could make a reasonable guess as to how many machines Windows might be running on -- it wouldn't be able to get any more accurate predictions than that.

    Of course what about the initial Free updates too where there was a "general activation" so even counting the number of activations wouldn't help in determining the number of individual devices Windows 10 was actually running on.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I didn't think of multiple activations.. but I agree that MS is not going to get a firm number of users of Win10.. a good estimate maybe but that's about it.
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  8.    07 Jan 2016 #8

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    I didn't think of multiple activations.. but I agree that MS is not going to get a firm number of users of Win10.. a good estimate maybe but that's about it.
    Hi there Bunny -- not having a go at you but nr of USERS is again totally different -- some PC's can have many users !!!!!

    Statistics might be "Finicky" but some hideous results in Policy can come about by drawing wrong conclusions from Statistical evidence. Maybe for example the US president Obama might like to have a look at Knife Crime statistics for the UK - and then decide if a tougher Gun Policy would lead to more or less homicides per 1000 of population --all things being taken into account and whether people would switch from Guns to knives with a tougher Gun Policy as per UK. Statistical evidence needs to be read very carefully indeed before drawing conclusions and basing policy whether Political or business upon those statistics.

    I often do "Day trading" as I'm semi retired now and have more time -- and if I draw the wrong conclusions it can cost a LOT OF MONEY !!!!. It's still fun to do though if you have the time.

    Cheers
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  9.    07 Jan 2016 #9

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there Bunny -- not having a go at you but nr of USERS is again totally different -- some PC's can have many users !!!!!

    Statistics might be "Finicky" but some hideous results in Policy can come about by drawing wrong conclusions from Statistical evidence. Maybe for example the US president Obama might like to have a look at Knife Crime statistics for the UK - and then decide if a tougher Gun Policy would lead to more or less homicides per 1000 of population --all things being taken into account and whether people would switch from Guns to knives with a tougher Gun Policy as per UK. Statistical evidence needs to be read very carefully indeed before drawing conclusions and basing policy whether Political or business upon those statistics.

    I often do "Day trading" as I'm semi retired now and have more time -- and if I draw the wrong conclusions it can cost a LOT OF MONEY !!!!. It's still fun to do though if you have the time.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    The proportion of knife crime compared to gun crime may be higher in the UK, but more people are killed in intentional homicides per year proportionately in the US than the UK (1 per 100,000 in the UK, 3.8 per 100,000 in the US).

    Sometimes it's about the bigger picture.
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  10.    07 Jan 2016 #10

    Quote Originally Posted by joedaman633 View Post
    The proportion of knife crime compared to gun crime may be higher in the UK, but more people are killed in intentional homicides per year proportionately in the US than the UK (1 per 100,000 in the UK, 3.8 per 100,000 in the US).

    Sometimes it's about the bigger picture.
    Hi there

    I'm not trying to make any political point here - I walk about without feeling any "unease" both in L.A and in London as well as other large cities in both countries. However even the above statistics on homicides can be flawed -- the US statistics are based on the relative easy availability of Guns -- when people have to switch to knives it could well be that because they are so much easier to get hold of then homicides may well increase significantly -- more homicides but fewer numbers being killed per homicide as people in the US switch from Gun to Knife crime.

    It's not an unreasonable supposition - and all I was pointing out that taking decisions based on "RAW DATA" is a lot more complex than a lot of "instant policymakers" like to think about.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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