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  1.    31 Dec 2015 #21

    It is all in the wording folks.

    They state they have had 200 million installs, what they don't say is how many uninstalls there have been, and how many people are actually running it. That is a whole world of difference. As I have said before 'the more I use 10, the less I like it'. A year is coming up real fast since the release and when you consider it has been free, when you consider MS is constantly badgering people on all older versions to switch, I don't think those numbers are all that impressive.

    The year of free will end, desktop sales are decreasing even more, and Windows as a tablet platform fails in the app section, so I don't foresee a huge rush to the sales counter for Windows 10. But heck, if they fudge on the numbers a little, and pound on their chests, I am fine with it. LOL silly little buggers.
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  2.    31 Dec 2015 #22

    Quote Originally Posted by bobjoe View Post
    200 million is an impressive number, but still doesn't come close to Windows 7.
    Hi there
    why are people comparing numbers of an OS that's only been universally available for a year to a previously successful one that has run for quite a few years.

    People have short memories -- XP was hated when it first came out (its predecessor Windows 2000 was actually very good too) but in the end people didn't want to get rid of it.

    Actually the difference in hardware availability when W7 was launched to now is HUGE -- back then if you wanted to do simple things like email / web surfing etc you had to use a computer -- now so much stuff can be done on smart phones, tablets etc that a lot of people don't use their computers so much so updating could be considered a chore.

    I've often posted to W7 diehards -- what can W7 do that W10 can't -- even simple and useful things like Storage Spaces (where you compound / aggregate a number of physical volumes - even with different capacities --into large data spaces) wasn't available on W7 --this type of data storage is really useful if you don't want a NAS and need large data areaes for say multi=media libraries on a server etc.

    Actually the current release (not the Insider version) is remarkably stable -- my main gripe is that Networking isn't 100% OK - but that's ALWAYS been the case with Windows right from the start.

    Cheers
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  3.    31 Dec 2015 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trust_No1 View Post
    It is all in the wording folks.

    They state they have had 200 million installs, what they don't say is how many uninstalls there have been, and how many people are actually running it. That is a whole world of difference. As I have said before 'the more I use 10, the less I like it'. A year is coming up real fast since the release and when you consider it has been free, when you consider MS is constantly badgering people on all older versions to switch, I don't think those numbers are all that impressive.

    The year of free will end, desktop sales are decreasing even more, and Windows as a tablet platform fails in the app section, so I don't foresee a huge rush to the sales counter for Windows 10. But heck, if they fudge on the numbers a little, and pound on their chests, I am fine with it. LOL silly little buggers.
    You keep having a go about windows 10 its bad points.
    So what OS are you running as I notice everything is blank.
    Your system specs is blank
    Also where it appears under your profile that is blank also.
    At least with 10 it is 100% better than any other windows that they have ever brought out.
    XP was a nightmare when it first came out.
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  4.    31 Dec 2015 #24

    Quote Originally Posted by hTconeM9user View Post
    You keep having a go about windows 10 its bad points.
    So what OS are you running as I notice everything is blank.
    Your system specs is blank
    Also where it appears under your profile that is blank also.
    At least with 10 it is 100% better than any other windows that they have ever brought out.
    XP was a nightmare when it first came out.
    Hi there

    Absolutely -- in fact it was also called Windows expensive (the XP being in the word expensive). W10 certainly fulfils what I need to do with it. I'd probably say that W2k3 server possibly was the most stable Windows Ms released but that's another whole issue - and although I ran it as a desktop OS there's quite a bit of fiddling you have to do to get a server OS to run as a satisfactory workstation.

    Too many people just have a go at Ms for no reason --Windows certainly bought computing cheaply to the realms of nearly everyone. The whole idea of a GUI was originally laughed at and the only early attempts outside Windows was the X-Server on hideously expensive UNIX (note not Linux - where GUI's evolved a bit later) machines.

    Of course no OS is ever 100% perfect - and the current system of updating is not to everyone's taste -- Please bring back Service packs instead of this "rolling update system" but Ms has done a reasonable job on this version of Windows and it certainly flies even on older hardware if you fit an SSD (also cheap these days for smaller capacity ones - the 256 GB size is ideal for a laptop and can be had for around 70 USD now.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  5.    31 Dec 2015 #25
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    There are some here on this forum that look for any little tidbit to complain about. Then when they actually have a legitimate complaint, they get all upset when nobody listens to them. All I can say to them is "The boy who cried wolf".

    I'm already running 10 on all my PC's (happily so) so I'm not seeing these upgrade nag screens. I personally don't agree with the tactics in use, if what I'm reading is true? If I say no I mean no. Don't call me, I'll call you if I change my mind. If I read all the prompts and say no, that should be the end of it. It's not like its hard to change your mind later on and do a quick Google search to find out how to upgrade. Hopefully all this in your face stuff quiets down when the free upgrade offer expires.

    I've done a few upgrade installs, mostly without incident, and a few clean installs. Really rather painless for me. Not so for everyone though. If you use proper preparation just in case, things won't be so bad when something unfortunate happens. And unforeseen things happen, that's life when dealing with most things, especially computers.
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  6.    31 Dec 2015 #26
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    I've said it before, and will say it again here.

    I am thrilled with the increase in performance Windows 10 has brought to my puny 2GB laptop...turning it into what feels like a new computer.

    I don't care if Microsoft's install numbers are 200 million or 200,000. I don't care if millions are rushing to uninstall and go back to their beloved 7/8.1. I have no investment in how successful Windows 10 is or isn't, as long as I can keep using it on my laptop.

    I will get ticked if Windows 10 starts breaking down on me, but it has not through 10586.36.
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  7.    31 Dec 2015 #27
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    My friend has just been upgraded from windows 7 to 10.
    He cant praise it enough.
    Told me 10 is the best windows out.
    Everything went as planned all updates went in, also likes that it is faster and you can do more with it.
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  8.    31 Dec 2015 #28
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    Who cares if there were 200 million Win 10 users ?
    If it does not work for john doe, it's crap for john doe.
    If it's perfect for mary jo, it's the 2nd coming for mary jo.
    Who cares ?
    Last edited by davidhk; 31 Dec 2015 at 14:48.
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  9.    31 Dec 2015 #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inundated View Post
    I've said it before, and will say it again here.

    I am thrilled with the increase in performance Windows 10 has brought to my puny 2GB laptop...turning it into what feels like a new computer.

    I don't care if Microsoft's install numbers are 200 million or 200,000. I don't care if millions are rushing to uninstall and go back to their beloved 7/8.1. I have no investment in how successful Windows 10 is or isn't, as long as I can keep using it on my laptop.

    I will get ticked if Windows 10 starts breaking down on me, but it has not through 10586.36.
    Well said, Inundated.
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  10.    31 Dec 2015 #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic77 View Post
    I think a lot of people are hopefully upgrading because they want to I don't think they are being forced too. I wasn't forced to do what I did.
    You are probably right - people are not forced. But the setup is such that the innocent cannot fathom the implications when they click on things. Smart people are not going to fall for that. But is this the intent - an OS for smart people only.
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