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  1. Joined : Jan 2014
    Carencro, LA 70520
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    Windows 10
       07 Jan 2015 #21

    BunnyJ said: View Post

    The point is that no one is forcing you to test the OS. You volunteered to do it and why should MS give you a copy for volunteering??
    The point is that no one is forcing you to work for your boss. You volunteered to do it and why should your boss give you any money for volunteering.
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  2. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       07 Jan 2015 #22

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    CountMike said: View Post
    Lee said: View Post
    BunnyJ said: View Post
    Free?? No.. Some testers might get a free copy but not many, just my 2c.
    Cost?? I'm going to put money aside and get a copy to do a clean install of Win10.

    Jeff..
    . . .I was going to say basically the same thing except be a little more blunt (like no one is forcing you to test windows 10 so why is it you feel that Microsoft owes you a free copy?).
    Maybe because somebody spent hours and days, maybe months testing and eventually reporting bugs and giving suggestions to MS and so essentially doing part of their job.
    The point is that no one is forcing you to test the OS. You volunteered to do it and why should MS give you a copy for volunteering??
    I agree with count mike. I hate to bring this up, but Microsoft has been laying people off and they are still continuing to do so. How can we get rid of more workers, oh lets open up the testing of the operating systems to more people worldwide, we don't have to pay them. The layoffs has me concerned about the future of the windows operating system especially if Microsoft goes out of business.
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  3. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       07 Jan 2015 #23

    groze said: View Post
    BunnyJ said: View Post
    CountMike said: View Post
    Lee said: View Post
    BunnyJ said: View Post
    Free?? No.. Some testers might get a free copy but not many, just my 2c.
    Cost?? I'm going to put money aside and get a copy to do a clean install of Win10.

    Jeff..
    . . .I was going to say basically the same thing except be a little more blunt (like no one is forcing you to test windows 10 so why is it you feel that Microsoft owes you a free copy?).
    Maybe because somebody spent hours and days, maybe months testing and eventually reporting bugs and giving suggestions to MS and so essentially doing part of their job.
    The point is that no one is forcing you to test the OS. You volunteered to do it and why should MS give you a copy for volunteering??
    I agree with count mike. I hate to bring this up, but Microsoft has been laying people off and they are still continuing to do so. How can we get rid of more workers, oh lets open up the testing of the operating systems to more people worldwide, we don't have to pay them. The lay offs has me concerned about the future of the windows operating system especially if Microsoft goes out of business.
    You're ignoring the fact that you and others( including me) volunteered to test the OS regardless of what MS did to their staffing. Since when do volunteers get paid for their efforts?
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  4. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       07 Jan 2015 #24

    labeeman said: View Post
    BunnyJ said: View Post

    The point is that no one is forcing you to test the OS. You volunteered to do it and why should MS give you a copy for volunteering??
    The point is that no one is forcing you to work for your boss. You volunteered to do it and why should your boss give you any money for volunteering.
    I have a contract with my employer to work for pay. It's not volunteering.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       07 Jan 2015 #25

    Jeff,
    I don't like volunteers taking the place of a paid employees. I am sure you wouldn't like it if a volunteer took your job. In the U.S. in the past volunteers was ok, now to me it seems like volunteers are actually replacing paid workers. This could be why we have a high poverty rate in the U.S. I am for volunteers as long as it doesn't replace the paid workers.
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  6. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,939
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       07 Jan 2015 #26

    groze said: View Post
    Jeff,
    I don't like volunteers take the place of a paid employees. I am sure you wouldn't like it if a volunteer took your job. In the U.S. in the past volunteers was ok, now to me it seem like volunteers are actually replacing paid workers. This could be why we have a high poverty rate in the U.S. I am for volunteers as long as it doesn't replace the paid workers.
    Keep in mind that MS can't test every way that the new OS will be used so they will need others(volunteers) to test it out, I too hate the idea of MS laying off employees but I don't know how many were related to the development of Win10.
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  7.    07 Jan 2015 #27

    Microsoft's big decision: Who gets a free upgrade to Win10
    I don't care anymore, I just want to get W10 period!!!
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  8. Joined : Nov 2014
    UK
    Posts : 232
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       07 Jan 2015 #28

    CountMike said: View Post
    Can promise you one thing, if I don't get some satisfaction out of this testing, it's a small chance I would be buying any more from M$ and sure as heck 'am not going to recommend any more.
    Fine words, but there's really not much of an alternative if you want to run your windows based application software; Microsoft have got us over a barrel in much the same way as Apple has for their clientele.

    I don't expect any reduction in purchasing an upgrade to Windows 10, but based on the current build there are a number of issues with Adobe Photoshop CS6 & Microsoft Frontpage which would keep me with Windows 7 or, at best, going to Windows 8.1 if the price dropped dramatically.

    Adobe Photoshop CS6 still crashes every time I try to print & Frontpage (OK I know it's no meant to be supported) which works fine apart when it crashes opening a folder to locate a url link.
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  9. Joined : Oct 2013
    Posts : 1,962
    Windows 7
       07 Jan 2015 #29

    The alternative to volunteers testing the pre-versions is paying customers to find the bugs later. There are just too many possible configurations and permutations to test, that no software company would be able to cover the whole spectrum. For that it is good that a million people (or more) out there give it a shot before the final product is released.
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  10. Joined : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 7,005
    All kinds
       07 Jan 2015 #30

    Volunteers work for their own satisfaction to do something positive, I did a lot of that and still doing what I can and most of the time I'm rewarded, a smile of a child makes it more than enough and heck of more precious than any money. But M$ certainly does not fit in that category. This time they went way out of their way to ask for it. Indications are that MS may do that even more in the future and without offering any incentive, it's almost guaranteed that testing this way will diminish and be left only to the curiosity.
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