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  1.    16 Dec 2015 #11
    Join Date : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 16,982
    Win10 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Win10 Pro Insider Fast Ring, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu

    One thing I did not answer, and the reason is sad but safe, is where they ask to contact me, specifically the telephone number. I know scammers are going to pick up on that twist, so not giving the number, I KNOW Microsoft won't be calling me.
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  2.    16 Dec 2015 #12
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Aurora, Colorado
    Posts : 493
    Windows 10 Pro

    I thought the survey was fine. I perceive the Insider Program as forward looking and I like seeing what is coming up and trying something out that is in my areas of interest. I don't see it as a program for fixing current issues in the public releases. The Feedback app is for that. No doubt the Insider program catches many things before they go public, but looking ahead I hope to see important new features in the Redstone builds, particularly in Edge and Mail. The role of the Insider program should shift back to feature evaluation from bug swatting with these next builds.
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  3.    16 Dec 2015 #13
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 2,375
    W10 Pro + W10 Preview

    Quote Originally Posted by bro67 View Post
    Never improves the product in this case. The guy that is running the Insider program is trying to justify to the boss that there are still some major issues with the OS and the program needs to keep running.

    Do not get me wrong. The Insider program is a great thing for Microsoft, because it is finally placing the users into the decision making process. But the Bean Counters do not see it that way.

    If they had started this back with XP and keep it running. It would solve a whole lot of headaches on our end.
    Your opening sentence contradicts everything you have stated afterwards.

    Take into account that Redstone is due soon which will add a new dimension to the insider program.

    As for the bean counters (if applicable) surely it is to M$ benefit to have a product to rival Apple or any other future competitor.
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  4.    16 Dec 2015 #14

    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    I've noticed that a lot of surveys seem to be written by some drunk that the company has found laying in a gutter somewhere.

    My favourite questions are those which assume you have answered "yes" to the previous question, regardless of the actually answer supplied.
    For example:
    Q1 - Do you own a mobile phone?
    A1 - No.
    Q2 - What brand is your mobile phone?
    A2 - WTF?
    Haaaaaaaaaaa! That's funny
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  5.    16 Dec 2015 #15
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Idaho USA
    Posts : 4,826
    OS X, Win 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    One thing I did not answer, and the reason is sad but safe, is where they ask to contact me, specifically the telephone number. I know scammers are going to pick up on that twist, so not giving the number, I KNOW Microsoft won't be calling me.

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  6.    16 Dec 2015 #16
    Join Date : May 2015
    Central IL
    Posts : 4,020
    Mac OS Sierra

    Cliff give them Microsoft's number. Microsoft already has your information in your live account.
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  7.    16 Dec 2015 #17
    Join Date : May 2015
    Central IL
    Posts : 4,020
    Mac OS Sierra

    Quote Originally Posted by dencal View Post
    Your opening sentence contradicts everything you have stated afterwards.

    Take into account that Redstone is due soon which will add a new dimension to the insider program.

    As for the bean counters (if applicable) surely it is to M$ benefit to have a product to rival Apple or any other future competitor.
    It was supposed to be two different statements. One about the Insider and one about the company.

    Redstone keeps getting pushed back, because of all of the problems they keep having with 10.

    Also not everyone in the Insider program are reporting problems. Some are in it, just to get the new build early, thinking that it will fix something, that it will not.

    Microsoft is no longer competing with Apple at this point, because Apple has slowed down on anything new, until next quarter. If anything Apple does, it will be hopefully fixing the Bluetooth and battery drain issues with iOS 9.

    Both companies have hit the brick wall with consumers. It is now mainly Enterprise that Microsoft especially is trying to keep. Linux is killing them in the Server and AD areas, since the company's that deal with AD for Redhat and Suse, have stepped up their A game.
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  8.    16 Dec 2015 #18
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Aurora, Colorado
    Posts : 493
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by bro67 View Post
    Redstone keeps getting pushed back, because of all of the problems they keep having with 10.

    Also not everyone in the Insider program are reporting problems. Some are in it, just to get the new build early, thinking that it will fix something, that it will not.

    What is your source for this "Redstone keeps getting pushed back"?

    People are perfectly free to join the insider program for their own purposes, whatever they are. The telemetry is what Microsoft uses, not their motives.
    Last edited by Brink; 16 Dec 2015 at 11:27. Reason: removed unneeded commment
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  9.    16 Dec 2015 #19
    Join Date : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 24,523
    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by bro67 View Post
    It was supposed to be two different statements. One about the Insider and one about the company.

    Redstone keeps getting pushed back, because of all of the problems they keep having with 10.

    Also not everyone in the Insider program are reporting problems. Some are in it, just to get the new build early, thinking that it will fix something, that it will not.
    The date has not really come out yet. At this point MS has said that it might come out in the June/July time frame.
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  10.    16 Dec 2015 #20
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Aurora, Colorado
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    The date has not really come out yet. At this point MS has said that it might come out in the June/July time frame.
    Microsoft has said July. That fits with the end of the free upgrade offer at the end of that month. It will be incentive for those not yet adopting to quickly do so. The publicity around the Redstone launch should provide encouragement to adopt before the offer expires.
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