Microsoft building new browser as part of Windows 10 push

lehnerus2000 · 29 Dec 2014

ThrashZone said:

I'm not sure anyone cares about looks anymore Chrome and Firefox look identical.

I care.
Chrome and the new Firefox are horrible.

Making IE look like Chrome won't make much difference, as it already uses the "hide everything from the user" GUI philosophy.

Trust_No1 · 29 Dec 2014

ThrashZone said:

I see a name conflict coming :)
I'm not sure anyone cares about looks anymore Chrome and Firefox look identical.

Well, not really...I designed my own theme for Chrome... (chrome theme's are nicer IMHO)
also,
in Chrome, I set my home page for chrome://apps, which displays the old style chrome page

so it is kind of a yes and no scenario...

But, that aside,
I wonder if you will be able to do windows updates, via the toolbar as you can in IE?

Coke Robot · 29 Dec 2014

There's not a whole lot of UI to copy from chrome or Firefox I find. They're all very similar as is.

BunnyJ · 30 Dec 2014

Coke Robot said:

Wow!

I wonder if this means like, they're LITERALLY shipping a new internet browser of which they haven't done since the inception of IE. That would be MAJOR poop right there and honestly, given their recent track record, that would be surprising if they didn't do that.

Also, I like that code name, Spartan. The Spartan browser is way better than chrome!

I really dig the name. Right now I just hope it's better than IE and we get to test it out soon or get a peak at it in Jan.

jimbo45 · 30 Dec 2014

Hi there

A browser is just a browser -- so long as it conveniently navigates to where you want to go, cuts and pastes when required, doesn't hide download locations from you when you download something, plays audio / video when required and has a decent way of remembering (and accessing) favourite sites then I for one really don't mind what they do with it

BUT please not like Firefox with so many addons and configuration that you need a degree in Computer Science to set it all up.

IMO all the security should be handled by the OS and NOT the browser - keep the browser as simple as possible. Lean and mean is the best policy -- make the OS secure so the applications cam run fast and with minimum coding (smaller blocks tend to be less error prone and easier to fix when things do break).

Cheers
jimbo

Lee · 30 Dec 2014

jimbo45 said:

Hi there

A browser is just a browser -- so long as it conveniently navigates to where you want to go, cuts and pastes when required, doesn't hide download locations from you when you download something, plays audio / video when required and has a decent way of remembering (and accessing) favourite sites then I for one really don't mind what they do with it

BUT please not like Firefox with so many addons and configuration that you need a degree in Computer Science to set it all up.

IMO all the security should be handled by the OS and NOT the browser - keep the browser as simple as possible. Lean and mean is the best policy -- make the OS secure so the applications cam run fast and with minimum coding (smaller blocks tend to be less error prone and easier to fix when things do break).

Cheers
jimbo

Couldn't agree more. . .the easier the better. . .:)

ThrashZone · 30 Dec 2014

lehnerus2000 said:

ThrashZone said:

I'm not sure anyone cares about looks anymore Chrome and Firefox look identical.

I care.
Chrome and the new Firefox are horrible.

Making IE look like Chrome won't make much difference, as it already uses the "hide everything from the user" GUI philosophy.

I don't believe they're terrible Installing Firefox actually got rid of some default ie annoyances from the new version ie11 or what ever it is switching Firefox as default

Not sure what is hidden in ie11 ?
The new little smiley face "frowns" is pretty silly

@Trust_No1
I did customize my gmail accounts but I doubt I'll ever install or use Chrome again but you never know now days when basic customizations are removed or never again offered users tend to look other places for them,
I do like gmail's ability to use my images for backgrounds that shows how much Google listens to it's users :)
Something Microsoft will never really do,
Cheers.

ICIT2LOL · 30 Dec 2014

Well for me ever since 7 things have been slipping downhill with just about everything - it has for me gone from something easy and friendly to use to something so convoluted and user unfriendly it srt of makes you lose the will to live

lehnerus2000 · 30 Dec 2014

jimbo45 said:

BUT please not like Firefox with so many addons and configuration that you need a degree in Computer Science to set it all up.

Add-ons aren't compulsory. :)

jimbo45 said:

IMO all the security should be handled by the OS and NOT the browser - keep the browser as simple as possible.

So no AV programs or Firewalls?

I agree with the idea that browsers shouldn't be filled with useless junk, like Facebook buttons, video chat systems, etc..
They can all be added as add-ons (if "required").

jimbo45 said:

Lean and mean is the best policy -- make the OS secure so the applications cam run fast and with minimum coding (smaller blocks tend to be less error prone and easier to fix when things do break).

The OS needs to do what the user orders.
Nothing "gets my goat" like the OS refusing to do what I say (often with the useless "get Administrator permission" message).

However, the user can order it to download/install malware, so another layer of defence is necessary (at least).

ThrashZone said:

I don't believe they're terrible Installing Firefox actually got rid of some default ie annoyances from the new version ie11 or what ever it is switching Firefox as default

I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

ThrashZone said:

Not sure what is hidden in ie11 ?

IE10's got 5 buttons (unless you include the horrible all-in-one Address bar).
It has no menu (unless you press the Alt key).
You have to use the browser the way MS wants (no customisation or variation allowed).

Chrome and the new Firefox are basically the same.

They only reason browser makers do this is they can't be bothered writing appropriate browsers for "tinker toys".

If you want to hide everything, press the F11 button.
Desktop users have had an F11 button for many, many years.

groze · 02 Jan 2015

Chrome and Firefox do work differently but have some of the same features. I use chrome for Facebook, weather channel and to sign into google. The rest of the time I split it between Firefox and SeaMonkey. I will use whatever browser plays my video the best including I.E.