Windows 10: Windows 10 Users Give Up on Edge

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  1.    22 Dec 2015 #160

    simrick said: View Post
    Edge
    I can't paste and go.
    I can't highlight a word on a site, right-click and search with Google.
    I can't easily reset the browser.
    I can't install extensions (password manager anyone?).
    I can't manage my bookmarks easily.

    This was understandable during Insider Previews. It simply doesn't work for prime time.
    All I can say is....
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       22 Dec 2015 #161

    Hi, Agree with 'proof of concept' theory but, Chrome & Firefox has/have provided the security, functionality, speed and (secure) customisation that Edge cannot or has yet to do. Previous iterations of IE have just been a target for malware/ pups and viruses from early conception. It seems to be aptly named 'Edge' as I think this will drop off eventually whereas the established proven browsers will be dominant. (too much too late Microsoft after all these years)

    [edit] the inclusion of Adobe Flash says it all really, given that historically, Flash Player has more security holes than a teabag
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       22 Dec 2015 #162

    x86intel said: View Post
    Hi, Agree with 'proof of concept' theory but, Chrome & Firefox has/have provided the security, functionality, speed and (secure) customisation that Edge cannot or has yet to do. Previous iterations of IE have just been a target for malware/ pups and viruses from early conception. It seems to be aptly named 'Edge' as I think this will drop off eventually whereas the established proven browsers will be dominant. (too much too late Microsoft after all these years)

    [edit] the inclusion of Adobe Flash says it all really, given that historically, Flash Player has more security holes than a teabag
    I think Edge is fine, if all you use it for is to download another browser.........
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       22 Dec 2015 #163

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    I think Edge is fine, if all you use it for is to download another browser.........
    Yup, a stepping stone
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       22 Dec 2015 #164

    simrick said: View Post
    Yes, but without functions like setting Java and Flash to "Ask to Activate", and with the lack of extension support (a specific add-on which will go unmentioned here), people are getting infected, and you can't easily reset the browser - like every other browser in the world, including IE - but Edge is not easily reset!

    So, from a security point of view, in my opinion, Edge is very dangerous and insecure for the "average, not-so-savvy user".
    Just being devil's advocate here, but I'm not sure much of that is true.

    Edge does not support Java, AFAIK, and Flash is built-in, so It comes without the Adobe unwanted add-on installations like those that tee me off when Firefox requires me to update Flash. (i.e. Flash is Microsoft approved and supplied via Windows Updates rather than the Adobe wild version)

    I have never seen any of the evidence that people are getting infected using Edge in Windows 10. I am sure the anti MS lobby would have a field day if it happened. Even IE has improved its security over the ages, and it was always the #1 target for malicious internet exploits.

    I can see that Edge is no more insecure than any of the Live apps supplied with Windows 10, and probably more secure than IE11 since hackers are more knowledgeable with the workings and weaknesses of IE (because it can be customised) and know very little yet regarding how to crack the closed box that is Edge.
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  6.    22 Dec 2015 #165



    f14tomcat said: View Post
    I think Edge is fine, if all you use it for is to download another browser.........
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  7.    22 Dec 2015 #166

    Fafhrd said: View Post
    Just being devil's advocate here, but I'm not sure much of that is true.

    Edge does not support Java, AFAIK, and Flash is built-in, so It comes without the Adobe unwanted add-on installations like those that tee me off when Firefox requires me to update Flash. (i.e. Flash is Microsoft approved and supplied via Windows Updates rather than the Adobe wild version)
    You are right, that it doesn't support Java - I was mentioning it, as that is how I have my current browser set up. And, yes those Adobe annoying addons are a pain, but easily taken care of with Unchecky.

    Fafhrd said: View Post
    I have never seen any of the evidence that people are getting infected using Edge in Windows 10. I am sure the anti MS lobby would have a field day if it happened. Even IE has improved its security over the ages, and it was always the #1 target for malicious internet exploits.
    Well, I am. With the lack of a certain extension which will not be named, and lack of being able to turn Flash to "Ask to Activate", not-so-savvy-users are getting hit with drive-bys and "mistaken clicks". And it is truly annoying that Edge can't be easily reset like every other browser in existence, including IE.
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  8.    22 Dec 2015 #167

    I have never seen any of the evidence that people are getting infected using Edge in Windows 10. I am sure the anti MS lobby would have a field day if it happened. Even IE has improved its security over the ages, and it was always the #1 target for malicious internet exploits.
    Every computer in my shop since 10 and edge has been because browser lockers that want them to call a number.

    Haven't seen any on computers that use Firefox or Chrome with the unmentionable extension.
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       22 Dec 2015 #168

    Which browser lockers affect Edge, Porthos? I'd be interested to hear, since Microsoft Edge provides no support for Java, VML, VB Script, Toolbars, BHOs, or ActiveX etc.
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  10.    22 Dec 2015 #169

    I don't actually believe that Edge is necessarily inferior to Internet Explorer, but I just thought this was funny.

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