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  1.    30 Dec 2014 #81
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    Coke,
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  2.    31 Dec 2014 #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I think it is pretty clear what the tabs and symbols mean. Example Word.

    Attachment 9903
    Perfect.
    Where are the Table Ribbons in your screenshot?
    I don't mean the Table button on the Insert Ribbon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    I realise that I'm in the minority with my opinions about the Ribbon.
    It is mysteriously loved by lots of people (just like Chrome).
    Funny, I love the ribbon and hate Chrome. Go figure.
    It doesn't necessarily follow that someone who loves the Ribbon loves Chrome (or vice versa).
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  3.    31 Dec 2014 #83
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    I never really minded the ribbon interface,
    I did not see why the quick access toolbar did not have a option to increase it's size :/
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  4.    31 Dec 2014 #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Why have a Table editing ribbon showing at the same time when you haven't even inserted a table?
    To see what commands are available?
    The menus showed the main commands available in the program (even if they were unavailable in the current file).

    Under the drop-down menu paradigm, the first thing I'd do when I installed a new program was to take a glance at what commands were available in the menus.
    If you wanted to:
    • Open/Save a file you'd go to the File menu.
    • Find out the program version you'd go to "Help > About".

    It would work with any program that used that model (and most programs I used did).

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    There are about maybe half a dozen context tabs in Office, maybe a bit more because of PowerPoint and Excel.

    But either way, this is debating which side of the bread slice is best to butter. The drop down menu based UI of Office was dreadful and required going through each and every menu entry to see where the command you needed was under.
    MS excel at hiding options in (apparently) random locations.

    There are at least 4 hidden Ribbons in Word (not counting the one you have to enable in the options).

    The "Customize Ribbon" section in Word 2010, indicates that there are a bunch of Main Ribbons that I've never seen outside of this window.

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    There are quite a few Context Ribbons (called Tool Tabs apparently).

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    Ironically, I've always thought that WMP12 would've been better with a Ribbon, rather than the multi-screen horror it came with.
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  5.    31 Dec 2014 #85
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    I don't think anybody can win this discussion. It is like between people who like beer and others who like wine.
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  6.    31 Dec 2014 #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    To see what commands are available?
    The menus showed the main commands available in the program (even if they were unavailable in the current file).

    Under the drop-down menu paradigm, the first thing I'd do when I installed a new program was to take a glance at what commands were available in the menus.
    If you wanted to:
    • Open/Save a file you'd go to the File menu.
    • Find out the program version you'd go to "Help > About".

    It would work with any program that used that model (and most programs I used did).

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    There are about maybe half a dozen context tabs in Office, maybe a bit more because of PowerPoint and Excel.

    But either way, this is debating which side of the bread slice is best to butter. The drop down menu based UI of Office was dreadful and required going through each and every menu entry to see where the command you needed was under.
    MS excel at hiding options in (apparently) random locations.

    There are at least 4 hidden Ribbons in Word (not counting the one you have to enable in the options).

    The "Customize Ribbon" section in Word 2010, indicates that there are a bunch of Main Ribbons that I've never seen outside of this window.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Office 2010 - Customise Word Ribbon.png 
Views:	34 
Size:	61.7 KB 
ID:	9920

    There are quite a few Context Ribbons (called Tool Tabs apparently).

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Office 2010 - Customise Word Context Ribbon.png 
Views:	57 
Size:	94.9 KB 
ID:	9921

    Ironically, I've always thought that WMP12 would've been better with a Ribbon, rather than the multi-screen horror it came with.
    I don't see the logic in needing to view unavailable commands that won't show or enable themselves without a particular object in question.
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  7.    31 Dec 2014 #87
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    That is assuming a user has never used the same process
    Adding repetitive commands to the Quick access toolbar is as the name insists
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  8.    31 Dec 2014 #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I don't think anybody can win this discussion. It is like between people who like beer and others who like wine.
    Thank you very much! (Btw, I don't like neither wine nor beer. Seriously.)
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  9.    31 Dec 2014 #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I don't think anybody can win this discussion. It is like between people who like beer and others who like wine.
    Thank you very much! (Btw, I don't like neither wine nor beer. Seriously.)
    I like me a good red wine and a good lager.
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  10.    31 Dec 2014 #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I don't think anybody can win this discussion. It is like between people who like beer and others who like wine.
    Thank you very much! (Btw, I don't like neither wine nor beer. Seriously.)
    I can understand that. In the US you don't have real beer anyhow and good wine is really hard to find or overpriced.
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