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  1. whs's Avatar
    whs
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       #20

    So after a couple of years of struggle, Microsoft finally decided to bring the Start menu back in Windows 10 with a modern twist
    This is not a start with a modern twist. It is an ill defined ******* that is neither fish nor fowl. I will stick with the start page.
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  2. jimbo45's Avatar
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       #21

    Hi there

    Sometimes the modern start screen is just NOT practicable --it's OK if you have a small number of discrete applications

    but imagine something like this -- would entail about 5 KM of endless scrolling for about 1000 tiles !!!!!.

    Hell Freezes Over: Users Now Want the Start Screen in...-snapshot1.png


    Cheers
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  3. davehc's Avatar
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       #22

    Can't argue with that, Jimbo. I only use about ten on a daily basis, so, for me, not such a big problem. Frankly, I would find computer use a bit of a nightmare if I needed that many daily.
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  4. jimbo45's Avatar
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       #23

    davehc said:
    Can't argue with that, Jimbo. I only use about ten on a daily basis, so, for me, not such a big problem. Frankly, I would find computer use a bit of a nightmare if I needed that many daily.
    HI there

    That was an extreme case - but people who say that the new start screen is ALWAYS OK can't envision a situation where it would be totally hopeless.

    The menu shown above was the UNITY menu from a LINUX Host (OPENSUSE 13.2 with KDE desktop) running Windows 8.1 Virtual Machine in "Unity Mode" -- great idea as you run all your Windows applications from your Linux desktop. You need VMWARE workstation to do this though. I don't believe VBOX has Unity mode but could be wrong. You can tidy up the menu of course but the unmodified one I think shows the limitations of a flat (non cascading) tile system clearly.

    In "Windows mode" I.e running a Native HOST windows system one would of course use the Taskbar, desktop icons and other short cuts so the menu wouldn't be that extreme !!!. However even on a MOBILE PHONE (android) using a tiling system becomes tedious once you have to scroll a few pages and these days phones seem to come with an ever increasing amount of "pre-installed" bloat - most of which I never use !!!.

    Anyway cheers
    jimbo
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  5. Trust_No1's Avatar
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       #24

    labeeman said:
    Winuser said:
    IMO I think MS should give us a choice between the start screen and start menu. If MS had given us a choice in 8, it would have been better accepted.
    If that had happen we would not be looking at Windows 10 for a few more years.
    So, if you are saying ... If they had done it right the first time, they wouldn't be where they are today.

    I couldn't agree more

    Personally, I feel the start screen (far superior) is a better option for metro apps than the tiled start menu, that is what it was designed for. Just leave it and put the Windows 7 menu back. Why is this so difficult for Redmond to do?
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  6. Mystere's Avatar
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       #25

    jimbo45 said:
    Hi there

    Sometimes the modern start screen is just NOT practicable --it's OK if you have a small number of discrete applications

    but imagine something like this -- would entail about 5 KM of endless scrolling for about 1000 tiles !!!!!.

    Hell Freezes Over: Users Now Want the Start Screen in...-snapshot1.png

    You keep forgetting about zooming and grouping. The start screen has those "folders" as well, and it's a button click or mouse wheel scroll+ctrl to zoom to folder mode.
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  8. whs's Avatar
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       #27

    HG, you sure like green, LOL - How did you get those groupings.
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  9. Posts : 5,834
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       #28

    Well, whs, we live on a planet with a lot of green. Green is my theme color.

    "By name" in Apps view > Click on a letter.

    By date installed, Most used, or Category click on any title.


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  10. whs's Avatar
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       #29

    Thanks. I saw that but never tried it. Will now experiment.
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