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  1. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
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    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       18 Dec 2014 #11

    Any chance that the next "upgrade" will be available on an ISO (instead of requiring the horrible in-place update garbage)?

    Microsoft should dump the unreliable in-place update paradigm entirely.
    The way they are forcing people to use it reminds me of their stubborn refusal to fix Metro's problems (during W8 testing and release).
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  2. Joined : Jan 2014
    Carencro, LA 70520
    Posts : 7,645
    Windows 10
       18 Dec 2014 #12

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    Any chance that the next "upgrade" will be available on an ISO (instead of requiring the horrible in-place update garbage)?

    Microsoft should dump the unreliable in-place update paradigm entirely.
    The way they are forcing people to use it reminds me of their stubborn refusal to fix Metro's problems (during W8 testing and release).
    Yes there is a chance M$ has released a Windows 8.1 iso just recently. I would hope it is sooner than Windows 8.1 timetable.
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  3. Joined : Nov 2014
    Warren, MI
    Posts : 224
    W10 Pro/W7 Pro 64-bit
       18 Dec 2014 #13

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    Any chance that the next "upgrade" will be available on an ISO (instead of requiring the horrible in-place update garbage)?

    Microsoft should dump the unreliable in-place update paradigm entirely.
    The way they are forcing people to use it reminds me of their stubborn refusal to fix Metro's problems (during W8 testing and release).
    You must enjoy installing software or have next to nothing installed? I for one didn't like installing software over and over again because of other problems I had.
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  4. Joined : Nov 2013
    Houston
    Posts : 1,397
    Win-7Prox64 Win-8.1Prox64 Win-10Prox64
       18 Dec 2014 #14

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    Any chance that the next "upgrade" will be available on an ISO (instead of requiring the horrible in-place update garbage)?

    Microsoft should dump the unreliable in-place update paradigm entirely.
    The way they are forcing people to use it reminds me of their stubborn refusal to fix Metro's problems (during W8 testing and release).
    No doubt if Microsoft wants to allow/ offer an upgrade then let people use a prior activation key with the current 10iso,
    Much more straight forward than covering an existing install for those who don't give a hoot for the prior windows version
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  5. Joined : Oct 2013
    Covington, Louisiana
    Posts : 536
    Windows 10 Pro 64
       18 Dec 2014 #15

    MS is testing their update procedure as that is the future. Major changes to W10 will be through updates and not new releases of the OS. Also they stated that W10 testers running the leaked versions will not be able to update to the Jan release so there will be an ISO.

    Jim
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  6. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
    Posts : 1,394
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       19 Dec 2014 #16

    wptski said: View Post
    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    Any chance that the next "upgrade" will be available on an ISO (instead of requiring the horrible in-place update garbage)?

    Microsoft should dump the unreliable in-place update paradigm entirely.
    The way they are forcing people to use it reminds me of their stubborn refusal to fix Metro's problems (during W8 testing and release).
    You must enjoy installing software or have next to nothing installed? I for one didn't like installing software over and over again because of other problems I had.
    Not really.
    I just spent 5 days reorganising my PC setup (It should have taken a few hours).

    Also, I only have a few programs installed in W10 TP, because I expect that I will have to do clean installs anyway every few weeks.

    However if the in-place upgrade fails, you probably won't be able to use any software, so you'll have to reinstall the lot anyway.

    Anecdotally, a clean OS with all of the same programs installed, seems to run better.

    Phone Man said: View Post
    MS is testing their update procedure as that is the future. Major changes to W10 will be through updates and not new releases of the OS.
    MS had better be prepared for a lot of bad press and whining on forums if anything goes wrong (like with W8).
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  7. Joined : Nov 2014
    Warren, MI
    Posts : 224
    W10 Pro/W7 Pro 64-bit
       19 Dec 2014 #17

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    Not really.
    I just spent 5 days reorganising my PC setup (It should have taken a few hours).

    Also, I only have a few programs installed in W10 TP, because I expect that I will have to do clean installs anyway every few weeks.

    However if the in-place upgrade fails, you probably won't be able to use any software, so you'll have to reinstall the lot anyway.

    Anecdotally, a clean OS with all of the same programs installed, seems to run better.
    I will have a third party app backup of my current W10TP build handy before I do an upgrade. I actually tried a clean install of 9879 and it didn't go well, ending up with wanting to install some software from an unknown source. I couldn't find anything by its file name. So I restored my backup of my in-place upgrade.

    Now, the in-place upgrade from 9860 to 9879 didn't happen by me wanting it either. I think I installed 9841 three times and twice upgraded to 9860 but I had thought that I found the problem but wanted to stay on 9860 for a bit to make sure. No doubt about this but I had one of those daily Defender updates but this one took forever ending with a needed reboot, for what? I wondered, what the heck?? After the reboot, I was back on 9879 again where I stayed ever since with no more blue screen reboot loops.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,542
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       19 Dec 2014 #18

    Actually, Microsoft would have to do an iso for January release. It is called the consumer preview. It is now time for the end user to test if they want to. You should still be able to upgraded using the iso instead of doing a clean install. Microsoft claimed you can do a upgrade as far back as windows 7.
    Last edited by groze; 19 Dec 2014 at 22:49.
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  9. Joined : Nov 2013
    Houston
    Posts : 1,397
    Win-7Prox64 Win-8.1Prox64 Win-10Prox64
       19 Dec 2014 #19

    Yep possibly the consumer preview will be less buggy and stuck in personal preferences
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,310
    win 10 Insider
       19 Dec 2014 #20

    It should be about choice. Pick either the in place or clean install. Personally, after many successful in place installs, that is the route I will continue to follow if it is available.
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