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  1.    14 Dec 2015 #81

    Quote Originally Posted by zooburner View Post
    You know what's weird..

    Windows 10 may become the most used, and the most unwanted O.S. both at the same time !!
    I think you got the unwanted part correct. LOL
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  2.    14 Dec 2015 #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopard View Post
    They came here to gloat. I suggest they open a new thread and make the subject: ' The Perfect 10' . All of you who chose W10 can share your success and love for the new OS in that thread. No one is questioning their decision to chose W10. This thread is for those who do not like W10 being forced on them. They want it to be their decision. They have W7/8 licenses, have agreed to the EULAs and have accepted extended support (that MS offered) until 2020 / 20233 respectfully. This is a contract that they believe that Microsoft is trying to violate.
    When you got it, flaunt it!

    BTW, I did post a thread like what you mention.

    As I said above; read the entire post before telling any of us what we can and cannot say in this thread. Until the moderator tells me I'm out of line, you don't have that right.
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  3.    14 Dec 2015 #83
    Join Date : Oct 2013
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    Windows 7

    I would not get too desperate about Windows 10. I am sure over time they will correct all the shortcomings and it will become a fine OS.
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  4.    14 Dec 2015 #84
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    W7/64 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    When you got it, flaunt it!BTW, I did post a thread like what you mention. As I said above; read the entire post before telling any of us what we can and cannot say in this thread. Until the moderator tells me I'm out of line, you don't have that right.
    Nobody is telling you what you can say or not say. Just chose the appropriate thread in which to do it.
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  5.    14 Dec 2015 #85
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    Tried 10 Returned to 8.1

    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    BTW, I did post a thread like what you mention.
    It must have gotten lost among all the W-10 problem threads otherwise you wouldn't be posting on this one.
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  6.    14 Dec 2015 #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trust_No1 View Post
    To all who state that Windows 10 works flawlessly for them, or runs fine on their 35 kazillon home computers. That is not the point. The point of the OP is about something else. Why is it the fan bois always find a need to peddle Microsoft's wares. I don't care if you like it and don't have problems.

    I ran it and it was not a pleasant experience. The OP comment was about being forced down people's throats. I don't use Windows 10 and I don't like it to even appear on my 7 and 8 machines (what this article is about). There are so many things about 10 I dislike, if I see it running on a machine I want to bash in the screen. So you run it, fine. Don't shove it in my face or down my throat, Microsoft does enough of it. Get a clue, and please try to keep on subject.
    O . . . K . . . You're telling me I can't talk about what's good about Windows 10, but you point out all the flaws? You want to tell me I'm cramming it down your throat, but you want to bash in the screen of a computer running Windows 10? May I ask, "Why are you participating in a Windows 10 Forum?" I'm quite sure there should be a "Windows 10 Bashing" thread in eightforums.com or sevenforums.com.

    Have you read the article in its entirety? If not, I'd suggest you do so. You may be surprised at the amount of misinformation contained therein.

    It seems to me that Microsoft has made their plans abundantly clear. From the article:

    The new push will be a two-step process, with the first kicking in this year, the second in early 2016. First, Microsoft will add the Windows 10 upgrade to the Windows Update list on Windows 7 and 8.1 systems as an "optional" item. That list can be examined by users, letting them choose -- or not -- each optional update.

    Sometime next year, Microsoft will shift the Windows 10 upgrade from optional to the "recommended" list. Updates on that list are automatically downloaded and installed on most PCs.

    While the Windows 10 upgrade delivered as a recommended update will automatically begin the installation process, the user will be able to refuse the OS change early in the process. "Before the upgrade changes the OS of your device, you will be clearly prompted to choose whether or not to continue," Myerson promised in October.
    While I wonder about Josh Mayfield's statement:

    "Over Thanksgiving weekend I started getting reports that the Windows Update 'AllowOSUpgrade' setting was getting flipped back on on a number of peoples' PCs, and it keeps re-setting itself at least once a day if they switch it back off," said Josh Mayfield, the software engineer who created GWX Control Panel. . .
    I also wonder about some of his statements and also his app:


    Concurrent with the release of GWX Control Panel 1.6, Mayfield began hearing from users that their PCs were being switched from a "do-not-upgrade-to-Windows-10" status to a "do-upgrade" state, often multiple times daily.

    In an interview Friday, Mayfield said that the Windows 10 upgrade setting switcheroo on Windows 7 and 8.1 PCs was apparently due to continued updates that Microsoft has shoved onto the older devices. The Redmond, Wash. company has repeatedly re-served its original GWX app to PCs, often with undocumented changes, even if the machine already had the app, or even if the user had managed to uninstall it previously.

    "Microsoft has released this update several times," said Mayfield. "It doesn't change the name of the update, but every version is new, with new binary files."
    Could it be that his app is causing the GWX fiasco? Hmmmmmmmm?

    Quoting Terry Myerson:

    While the Windows 10 upgrade delivered as a recommended update will automatically begin the installation process, the user will be able to refuse the OS change early in the process. "Before the upgrade changes the OS of your device, you will be clearly prompted to choose whether or not to continue," Myerson promised in October.
    Looks pretty clear to me.

    Money seems to always be the object in any free app. One way or another . . .

    The GWX Control Panel can be downloaded from Mayfield's website. While the app is free, Mayfield does accept donations from appreciative users via PayPal. But he's not getting rich from those donations. "I get a donation from about one in every thousand downloads," he said Friday.
    And finally:

    When users allow GXW Control Panel to run in the background, what Mayfield called "Monitor Mode" -- and which debuted in version 1.6 -- the app detects any behind-the-scenes changes Microsoft makes to Windows 7 or 8.1 to grease the wheels for the Windows 10 upgrade. Users can then use GWX to restore the PC's settings to a "do-not-upgrade" state.
    So, it seems the app doesn't stop anything; it just has a way to turn it off for the moment. Hmmm, can't we already do that in Windows 7 and 8.1?
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  7.    14 Dec 2015 #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    And no matter what MS does and no matter how good the OS becomes there will still be people complaining.
    Looks like the naysayers are trying to outnumber us, Jeff. Ain't agonna work, ya know?
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  8.    14 Dec 2015 #88
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    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit

    Let changes subject for a moment, I thought the GWX Control Panel was recommend by Brink? (I maybe confusing posters).
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  9.    14 Dec 2015 #89
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    W10 CU & W10 Insider

    I have 2 computers running W10, 1 (2 if you want to count Win Phone) on W8.1 and I am happy with all of them, BUT, my Win 7 machine, I want to keep it as is, not because I don't like W10, I just want it left alone until such time as MS no longer supports it and then "I" will shut it down. I have 2 XP machines in "rest" mode
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  10.    14 Dec 2015 #90
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    Temecula, CA
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    Win 10 Home, but have clients using multiple versions of Windows

    About a quarter of the users I know running Windows 10 are having issues with freezes and hangs, everyone else is doing fine. I am getting hints that it may be related to having older graphics/video display cards that they can't get updates to the drivers for. This makes sense, given the new code MS had to write into Win 10 in order to make it adaptive across all screen sizes. Video cards must support Active X 9 + in order to be compatible for the upgrade. I am strongly recommending that my clients do 4 things before the Windows 10 upgrade:

    • Update all drivers - especially video card drivers - to the most recent version possible.
    • Make sure Windows Update has been run until it can't find anymore updates. (Except optional language packs)
    • Do a full system image backup and system repair/recovery disk or media so that an intact rollback to the current OS is possible in the event of trouble, and without file loss.
    • If using Quickbooks, back up your company file to a flash drive. Some users have had their company data blown out of Quickbooks after the upgrade. However, Quickbooks 2007 Pro and later were tested and ran fine under Win 10 by myself and my accountant.


    Regards,

    Dan
    Last edited by DanStafford62; 14 Dec 2015 at 13:46. Reason: Forgot a point.
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