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  1.    03 Dec 2015 #61
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    Poole Dorset UK
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    Windows 10 x64 Home Version(1709) Build16299.125

    Hopefully will hunt their site where the KB are and try and find out what this update did,
    Sooner or later it will get posted
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  2.    03 Dec 2015 #62
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
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    W10 Insider + Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by altae View Post
    You will never know because nobody is going to tell you. Maybe you'll find out that some bug was introduced that will probably be fixed with another update of which you will also have no clue what it does...

    Sorry but this situation is unbearable to me. If MS does not adapt it's update information policy I'll have to quit Windows sooner or later. I simply cannot stand using a computer to store all my personal data and not knowing what MS does with it. I simply cannot trust such an operating system.
    Storing your data is not dependent on OS.
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  3.    03 Dec 2015 #63
    Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 30
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

    Just restarted my laptop after getting this update. I hope someone posts a changelog or at least a link as I can't find one.
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  4.    03 Dec 2015 #64
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    Serbia
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    Quote Originally Posted by hTconeM9user View Post
    Hopefully will hunt their site where the KB are and try and find out what this update did,
    Sooner or later it will get posted
    I think that problem is with not knowing in advance, later on may be too late. Not having a choice of installing updates is what most objectors object to.
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  5.    03 Dec 2015 #65
    Join Date : Dec 2014
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    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by dskiller View Post
    this update was to only tweak and enhance older updates., nothing more.

    How do you know that? Cumulative includes older updates but can have new ones, not tweaks to old one.
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  6.    03 Dec 2015 #66

    From working decades in the business world, I can assure you that when a company is doing something controversial, it won't talk about it. There's more behind Microsoft's secretive way of Windows-10 than what they've explained to the public. Do Microsoft's other products and devices contain update details?
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  7.    03 Dec 2015 #67
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    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by alexberry View Post
    Completely with you - the OS is nothing more than an enabler; it's the software you install and run that is the point of having a PC. If every time Windows 10 crashes (freezes / BSODs / etc etc) and the answer is do a clean OS install plus reinstall of all apps, games etc (or even waste another 10 minutes while sfc /scannow thinks about things), it seriously diminishes the value of the PC.

    After finally managing to get a clean bill of health from sfc a few days ago, I foolishly installed a PCIe WiFi card which appears to work OK, but I'm now getting intermittent Win10 crashes/freezes again. And once again sfc is claiming that files are corrupted than can't be fixed. DISM says it hasn't got the necessary source files to fix it etc etc. Am I left with yet another clean install? I despair!
    Did you check the computer manufacturer's website whether or not your machine supports Windows 10?

    GWX sometimes says 'This computer is compatible with Windows 10' even when the computer manufacturer's website says 'not compatible'.

    You could still go ahead with Windows 10 like I did, thereby burning out a power adapter, although it runs fine now after replacing the power adapter. It is/was a case of hardware incompatibility. Your machine may be another case of hardware incompatibility. If your factory-installed OS does the job, you may want to stay with that.
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  8.    03 Dec 2015 #68
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Storing your data is not dependent on OS.
    Of course it is. The OS (in my case Windows 10) is run on the computer in which my hdds are installed that contain my data. If this computer fails due to an update introduced and/ or if there is even a loss of data due to a system crash (unlikely but happens nonetheless) storing my data is directly dependent on my os.

    What's more if MS installs updates on my computer that contain who knows what and they don't talk about it that's a huge threat to data security. The os has unlimited access to my data and so could MS if they installed the right tool with an update. Of which I would not know because they don't tell.... Seriously, does MS not realize that with their non disclosure policy they are actively destroying their customers faith in Windows? See, this is me writing such words, me who has been a Windows only user for more than 20 years. Me who always told people that Linux was not ready for the average John Doe and is only for people that consider it fun to mess around with computers. And now here I am, thinking about ditching Windows and switching to Linux. But I'm not the only one, you can see people all over the internet complaining about Microsoft's update policy. Sorry but to me the MS update policy is a complete fail, I'm so fed up installing "cumulative updates" that do this or that or nothing or...
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  9.    03 Dec 2015 #69
    Join Date : Nov 2015
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    Windows 10 Home

    Quote Originally Posted by FrozenCursor View Post
    Did you check the computer manufacturer's website whether or not your machine supports Windows 10?

    GWX sometimes says 'This computer is compatible with Windows 10' even when the computer manufacturer's website says 'not compatible'.

    You could still go ahead with Windows 10 like I did, thereby burning out a power adapter, although it runs fine now after replacing the power adapter. It is/was a case of hardware incompatibility. Your machine may be another case of hardware incompatibility. If your factory-installed OS does the job, you may want to stay with that.
    It's a new PC I built myself, so it should be fine. All components (Skylake CPU etc etc) are Win10 compatible, apparently.
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  10.    03 Dec 2015 #70
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
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    W10 Insider + Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by altae View Post
    Of course it is. The OS (in my case Windows 10) is run on the computer in which my hdds are installed that contain my data. If this computer fails due to an update introduced and/ or if there is even a loss of data due to a system crash (unlikely but happens nonetheless) storing my data is directly dependent on my os.

    What's more if MS installs updates on my computer that contain who knows what and they don't talk about it that's a huge threat to data security. The os has unlimited access to my data and so could MS if they installed the right tool with an update. Of which I would not know because they don't tell.... Seriously, does MS not realize that with their non disclosure policy they are actively destroying their customers faith in Windows? See, this is me writing such words, me who has been a Windows only user for more than 20 years. Me who always told people that Linux was not ready for the average John Doe and is only for people that consider it fun to mess around with computers. And now here I am, thinking about ditching Windows and switching to Linux. But I'm not the only one, you can see people all over the internet complaining about Microsoft's update policy. Sorry but to me the MS update policy is a complete fail, I'm so fed up installing "cumulative updates" that do this or that or nothing or...
    You can access data (I mean personal files, programs etc) on any media and OS crash will not trash that. Storing in cloud can also be retrieved with any other OS from anywhere wit almost any device. Offline backup is important for everything.
    I'm sympathize with your (and my) frustration with unannounced updates, especially when without explanation in advance, I also like to be in complete control of my system but my regular offline backups I can access even from a live Linux so they are safe. Since early alpha of W8 I did not have a complete wipe-out of another online disk let alone offline backups.
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