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  1.    06 Dec 2014 #11
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    I'm sure that they would get a key when purchasing a RTM copy though.
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  2.    06 Dec 2014 #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
    When I do go to a full fledged W-10 it will be a clean install.
    I never did trust/like upgrades or the like. It does take longer but it's a Clean Install.
    Hi there

    While in principle doing a clean install is obviously the best way and certainly while testing an OS it's the best method too usually.

    BUT : I think these days a lot of us have often quite a lot specialized programs installed which is a real pain to find all the updates and serial numbers and re-install again --especially if the software isn't being sold any more. It's often difficult too to chase down obscure hardware drivers etc so I really think an UPGRADE instead of a COMPLETE install is perfectly OK now and will avoid a lot of problems.

    As for activation keys --that's not a problem - after (or at) install time you will have to enter your retail key or whatever - just as with previous upgrades.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3.    06 Dec 2014 #13
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    Jimbo does have a good point. The computers used to operate scientific equipment often has software specifically made for that equipment and has to be setup and calibrated for that specific machine. Just to give an example, I've been doing research lately with Raman spectroscopy. The software for using the machine is a good example of one that has to be setup specifically for the individual piece of equipment. As in, if one part on the Raman spectrometer had to be replaced, the whole software would have to be setup all over again. I was told by the only person at the university who knows how to do it, that it literally takes days, and that's assuming you actually have time to mess with it all day for several days in a row. Naturally the university has a lot of rules about using that computer. If you were to put a flash drive in that computer, you'd be banned from ever touching it again. The one precaution they never took, however, was actually backing up the whole computer, and the hard drive crashed last month. Big mess. Can't get any work done until the start of next semester. If Microsoft does do a continual update/upgrade thing with Windows 10, it would be a royal pain to do a clean install to upgrade computers with that kind of software on a regular basis. But at the same time, I'd bet MS would say "If you don't upgrade within 2 months, you won't get any more security updates" or something similar. Its all speculation at this point, but it will be interesting to see what happens.
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  4.    06 Dec 2014 #14
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    Petey, computers like that, that are essentially one job machines should not be messed around anyway let alone modify OS in any way unless maker of that specialized SW agrees it's completely compatible. I know few machines that are still working of a 386 computer and using windows 3.11. As there's absolutely no chance to use anything else in this case, I found and keep 3 MBs, RAM and video cards from that era. There's no telling how long will they have to last as machines they are controlling (saw mills) are still going strong and nothing better is needed.
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  5.    06 Dec 2014 #15
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    The ability to upgrade a OS does save a lot of time compared to starting new. I always try to save as much install info as possible. Doing so has made it easier when I'm setting a new computer or in this case a new test OS. If I decide to go with 10 final, I may change my mind and go with a upgrade from 10 preview. One thing I do know for sure. If I go with Windows 10 it's going on a SSD.
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  6.    06 Dec 2014 #16
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    Backups


    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    I always try to save as much install info as possible. Doing so has made it easier when I'm setting a new computer or in this case a new test OS.
    I keep a "back catalogue" of installers and I have my Product Keys stored (multiple backup images too).
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 06 Dec 2014 at 19:07. Reason: Quote Added, Title
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  7.    11 Dec 2014 #17
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    I don't believe that I indicated that there were not specialized circumstances and programs that some people have.
    I did not stipulate that others should Clean Install. I stated that is the way I prefer to do such things.

    Their is always going to be special needs and methods considering their are billions of computers around the globe.

    I presume that people that have special programs also have a special place to keep the proper codes to reactivate such programs again when maintenance or other things are done or a problem arises.

    I also presume that the special programs would have several backups just in case it's needed.

    I'm not a enterprise person but if I was I would have a backup computer up to date with my special operating system and programs that I could switch to if need be in case their was a problem.

    Planing ahead for updating operating system, programs and hardware is nothing new or special. It is done by many all the time.
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  8.    12 Dec 2014 #18
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    Windows 10 RTM Won't Require a Clean Install

    The biggest enigma, however, remains the price of the upcoming operating system, as some people initially believed that Microsoft could give Windows 10 free of charge to those running Windows 7 and 8. It turns out that this isn't the case, as Microsoft might be planning a different pricing model inspired by Office 365 and offering Windows on a subscription-based system.
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  9.    12 Dec 2014 #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    Hey Dave,

    Not a free RTM, but that you will be able to update/upgrade to RTM from preview without losing anything.
    Darn it! It must be true--there ain't no free lunch!
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  10.    12 Dec 2014 #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
    When I do go to a full fledged W-10 it will be a clean install.
    I never did trust/like upgrades or the like. It does take longer but it's a Clean Install.
    I agree about the clean install. Yes you have to backup some of your stuff and do some reinstalling, but I think it's worth the time. Of course, I'm retired and probably have more time than you who still have to work.
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