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  1.    06 Dec 2014 #51
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    The US economy is the best of the whole world right now. Look how the EU and Russia are struggling.

    I think people who pay $50/month to watch commercials on TV will pay a reasonable subscription fee for the OS.

    I use Linux a lot (mostly Mint Mate). It is not buggy at all - just the opposite. It is a lot more stable than Windows ever was. Have a look.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0zrevWm0YM
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  2.    06 Dec 2014 #52
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    I wouldn't pay a monthly fee for regular updates. I would consider paying for build updates every year or two. If they go that route Ms should also offer a disk for those who have limited Internet or those who want a disk version.
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  3.    06 Dec 2014 #53
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    I wonder whether there will even be 'regular updates'. Maybe security updates, but the bug fixes will probably be rolled into the next bigger update.

    And the point of the installation DVD for people with slow internet is a good suggestion. That will probably be an extra $20 or so for S&H.
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  4.    06 Dec 2014 #54
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    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit

    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I wonder whether there will even be 'regular updates'. Maybe security updates, but the bug fixes will probably be rolled into the next bigger update.

    And the point of the installation DVD for people with slow internet is a good suggestion. That will probably be an extra $20 or so for S&H.
    Whs,

    Microsoft is still going to have to have security updates until extended support ends for all the older operating system. Normally there are beta testers, so is everybody going to be testing out a new builds before it released to the General Public? I am talking about the updates you may have to pay for. I think Microsoft should of waited until extended supports ended for all current & old operating systems. In the meantime do Service pack releases for the current & old systems that are still supported. Since Microsoft maybe changing directions

    As far as Linux, I didn't mean Linux was unusable, it will occasionally have minor issues just like any operating system. I use it a lot for my old windows 16 bit program. Dells are funny on what Operating Systems will work with their computers.
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  5.    06 Dec 2014 #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    but the bug fixes will probably be rolled into the next bigger update.
    If they make us wait until the next bigger update to get bug fixes, I'll stay with 8.1.1.
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  6.    06 Dec 2014 #56
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    Windows 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    but the bug fixes will probably be rolled into the next bigger update.
    If they make us wait until the next bigger update to get bug fixes, I'll stay with 8.1.1.
    That is definitely an option. Many people will probably stay backlevel at first until the dust regarding any new scheme has settled.

    You can see what might happen if you look at today's Office 365. For some people (with up to 5 PCs) that is a good deal, but for a single PC it may not be so great.
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  7.    06 Dec 2014 #57
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    Guess we'll just have to wait and see what direction MS decides to go.
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  8.    06 Dec 2014 #58
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    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.2 MATE (64 bit), W10 Home (64 bit)

    Mint Menu Glitches?


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I use Linux a lot (mostly Mint Mate). It is not buggy at all - just the opposite. It is a lot more stable than Windows ever was.
    I take it you don't have any weird opening delay issues with the Mint Menu?

    The very first time I try to open it there is a noticeable delay (2s to 4s) between pressing the Windows key (or clicking on the button/icon) and the menu opening.
    Once it has been opened once, it responds instantly on any subsequent attempts.

    Both my real installs, desktop (HDD) & laptop (SSD) exhibit this issue.

    The weird thing is that the Mint Menu in my LM17 VM opens almost instantly (~0.5s).
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  9.    06 Dec 2014 #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I use Linux a lot (mostly Mint Mate). It is not buggy at all - just the opposite. It is a lot more stable than Windows ever was.
    I take it you don't have any weird opening delay issues with the Mint Menu?

    The very first time I try to open it there is a noticeable delay (2s to 4s) between pressing the Windows key (or clicking on the button/icon) and the menu opening.
    Once it has been opened once, it responds instantly on any subsequent attempts.

    Both my real installs, desktop (HDD) & laptop (SSD) exhibit this issue.

    The weird thing is that the Mint Menu in my LM17 VM opens almost instantly (~0.5s).
    No I never noticed any unusual delays. I run all my linux distros under VMware Player from an external eSata or USB3 attached SSD or from a flash drive - both VMware or native flash drive installations. All those open as you would expect.

    A while ago I made a little recording that compares loading Windows 8 with loading Mint Cinnamon in VMware Player. You have to disgard the time it takes to setup VMware Player. The boot really starts when the OS logo appears for the first time. . Watch here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=103mlrKLTAk
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  10.    06 Dec 2014 #60
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    I've watched your boot video previously.

    Speaking of VMs, a couple of years ago I noticed something weird about VMs and the WEI score.

    My W7 VM has a much higher rating, than my real PC (Host).

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