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  1. Joined : Nov 2013
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       05 Dec 2014 #41

    Thanks, guys. Interesting indeed.
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  2. Joined : Oct 2014
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       05 Dec 2014 #42

    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    Jody Thornton said: View Post
    That's why Microsoft is testing that update mechanism. That is how new Windows "imporvements" or "builds will be sent. There won't be a Windows 11, 12, 13, or whatever. Windows 10 will be like OSX (ongoing for eternity)

    So next year's initial release will or may closely resemble what you get in the Consumer Preview come January. The Windows 10 build you update in several years from now, may be radically different.
    Did I miss something along the line? Was there an official statement of what you're stating from MS perhaps?

    While I'm at it. Some say that the kernel hasn't changed. Just the number. They're always adding to and improving it. e.g. Defender has been incorporated into the kernel.
    There have been several threads in this forum and respectable articles citing this is going to be Microsoft's path. That why I chuckle when someone says I'll wait this one out and try Windows 11 or 12. Uh, there won't be.
    Jody Thornton,

    How is that going to work with OEM's and hardware manufactures? Really Microsoft going to give up the cash cow and not sell newer operating systems? Who knows there might not be a Microsoft in the future. I don't know if Internet service provider will like people having to download huge operating systems every few months to get a newer version. A lot of people like doing a clean install, so that sounds like that will be eliminated.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2013
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       05 Dec 2014 #43

    I guess the OEMs will install whatever is the most recent update. And nobody said that the updates will be for free. I suspect they will have a subscription scheme - that is an even cash flow.
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  4. Joined : Nov 2013
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       05 Dec 2014 #44

    If this comes to be this is quite a different approach. A faster cycle for those that want it. Slower for those that don't, especially enterprise. This all makes sense since they placed the choice in PC Settings.

    I think it will be available as either a one time price or subscription, although it does seem it would fit the subscription model better.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2014
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       06 Dec 2014 #45

    All,

    I thought the subscription model was nixed. I read a few feedback complaints on that issue. We pay Internet provider and have to have a cable package to get it a decent price. Now, Microsoft expect us the consumer to add another bill, I don't think that going to work in the U.S. This also might effect plans for FCC to provide service for rural people in the U.S. I know a wireless provider in my area that got the funds to test out wireless service. The normal wireless service is suppose to be cheaper than cable economy service. I may get that service in March 2015 if it is ready. The U.S. government wants the majority of to U.S. citizens to sign up for High Speed Internet access. Oem's will need big warnings on the computer boxes and have a warning before you run the computer purchase at the checkout before you are able to swipe your card or pay cash for your system. If Microsoft charges a monthly fee, or yearly subscription fee to run your computer that might will backfire.
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  6.    06 Dec 2014 #46

    As far as hardware manufacturers go, it appears that they would just preload whatever the "current" build of Windows 10 is.

    Speaking of subscribing to an OS, I wonder if paying say $50.00 every two years for a MAJOR update to the OS, would be any different than Apple charging a similar amount for the newest "big cat" Mac OSX on DVD. I think subscription could work (I wouldn't be too stuck on it, but I could see it working). This way, Microsoft could guarantee a steady revenue flow without having to reinvent Windows every so often just in order to do so.

    I stated before, my biggest concern is if I particularly like a certain build o Windows, and a newer build removes or changes a feature not to my liking, well I would not be able to roll back if I wanted to continue receiving updates.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2014
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       06 Dec 2014 #47

    so if a company locks down windows 10 on their machines to a certain build.

    does that mean they wont receive any updates to that build?
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  8. Joined : Oct 2013
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    Windows 7
       06 Dec 2014 #48

    I don't think that going to work in the U.S.
    Why not. Most people now pay $50 and more per month to watch commercials on their TV. They would have to pay me to watch that junk.
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  9. Joined : Oct 2013
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    Windows 7
       06 Dec 2014 #49

    dskiller said: View Post
    so if a company locks down windows 10 on their machines to a certain build.

    does that mean they wont receive any updates to that build?
    I would think that you get updates if you pay for updates. If you don't pay, you get nothing. That is the same now with a lot of commercial programs.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
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       06 Dec 2014 #50

    whs said: View Post
    dskiller said: View Post
    so if a company locks down windows 10 on their machines to a certain build.

    does that mean they wont receive any updates to that build?
    I would think that you get updates if you pay for updates. If you don't pay, you get nothing. That is the same now with a lot of commercial programs.
    Whs,
    I think dskiller was referring to the normal update we are use to. Like the ones that are released on certain Tuesday or Wednesday each month. No one will pay for that or at least I wont. I also won't pay for a monthly or yearly subscription fee either. However, We need to figure out what type of subscription model Microsoft is talking about and if it will deactivate your computer if you don't renew.

    Microsoft really thinks consumers will pay a subscription fee to get updates, I highly doubt it in imo due to the U.S. economy. There is something called Linux. Linux is a little buggy but still works.
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