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  1.    21 Nov 2015 #1
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 RS 10586.586

    MS explains disappearance of the Win 10 Nov. Update from Media tool


    Microsoft’s official comment(s) are below:


    The November update was originally available via the MCT (Media Creation Tool), but the company decided that future installs should be through Windows Update. People can still download Windows 10 [Build 10240] using the MCT tool if they wish. The November update will be delivered via Windows Update.

    Microsoft has not pulled the Windows 10 November 10 update. The company is rolling out the November update over time – if you don’t see it in Windows Update, you will see it soon.
    Read more: http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsof...ovember-update
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  2.    21 Nov 2015 #2
    Join Date : Aug 2015
    Aurora, Colorado
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    Windows 10 Pro

    So what happens to the users who still had days left on their rollback option to the previous Windows? Didn't the Fall Update cause the rollback option available to change from their Windows 7 or 8 to the July release instead? Isn't that the problem here? Putting a timer in Windows Update to hold the download until 30 days on Windows 10 has passed doesn't help the people who already lost thier legacy OS rollback.
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  3.    21 Nov 2015 #3
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    It totally removes the possibility of clean installing and using your W7/W8 key to activate from the general public.
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  4.    21 Nov 2015 #4
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    Windows 7 (SP1)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cluster Head View Post
    As the article states, That makes absolutely no sense at all, I think there is much more to it.

    As mentioned above, there doesn’t appear to be a clear reason as to why Microsoft has made this change. It doesn’t make much sense for Microsoft to suddenly want users to upgrade via Windows Update, when not too long ago they were recommending users create an ISO for manual upgrade if they didn’t want to use Windows Update. Very confusing indeed.

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  5.    21 Nov 2015 #5
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    Aurora, Colorado
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Windows Update is set now to give new upgraders from Window 7 or 8 at least 30 days to rollback by withholding the Fall Update until a user has been on Windows 10 at least 30 days. 10586 causes 10240 to replace their legacy OS as the previous version of Windows in the rollover option. That's what is going on.
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  6.    21 Nov 2015 #6
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    Raleigh, NC, USA
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    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by Cbarnhorst View Post
    Windows Update is set now to give new upgraders from Window 7 or 8 at least 30 days to rollback by withholding the Fall Update until a user has been on Windows 10 at least 30 days. 10586 causes 10240 to replace their legacy OS as the previous version of Windows in the rollover option. That's what is going on.
    If that's the case, then that is what they should say. The reason they give makes no sense. Releasing one group of setups and then changing so soon makes it look as if they have no idea what they are doing. As some others have said, I think there's much more to it than this.
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  7.    21 Nov 2015 #7
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    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10

    MS can not monitor the installation / update / upgrade via the ISO method...

    they can monitor the installation via windows update...

    all the MS 10586 ESD downloads are valid and the newer 10586 mediacreationtool.exe still works.
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  8.    21 Nov 2015 #8
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    Yeah, they enticed people to try Windows 10 by telling them that they would have up to a month to change their minds and simply revert to their old OS and they have to keep that promise. No other choice. It may stay this way until 30 days after the free Windows 10 upgrade offer expires next July. Of course, one can still make his own .iso. I dread the number of websites that are going to pop up offering the unofficial .iso files for download. A lot of those are going to have all kinds of malware in them. This is Microsoft's gift that is going to keep on giving.
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  9.    21 Nov 2015 #9
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    Raleigh, NC, USA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyhi View Post
    MS can not monitor the installation / update / upgrade via the ISO method...
    they can monitor the installation via windows update...
    all the MS 10586 ESD downloads are valid and the newer 10586 mediacreationtool.exe still works.
    Then why did they make the 10586 ISO available at all? I'm still smelling a rat!
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  10.    21 Nov 2015 #10
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    Mumbai
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    Windows 10 Pro Build 1511 RTM 64-bit

    I have Already upgraded to th2 using the mct and also have an iso of it. Does this mean I cannot use this iso to do a clean install?? Really Microsoft is only making things worse for themselves. Most of the issues experienced with th2 have been with WU mainly! So if something went wrong via WU, users will not be able to use the MCT. This also prevents them from doing a clean install which would be much more preferred on a PC that is quite old or has a lot of junk.
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