Windows 10: First Major Update for Windows 10 Available


  1. Posts : 133
    Windows 10 Pro (14393) / 7 Pro
       15 Nov 2015 #1031

    Is there a reason why that this release is 10586.3?
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  2. Posts : 14,404
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       15 Nov 2015 #1032

    Robinb9 said: View Post
    someone want to explain to me why there is a full upgrade? they cannot fix it with updates in Windows updates?
    This ain't yer paw's OS; nor yer maw's either.

    Microsoft has been working on the recent major upgrade to Windows 10 Build 10240 RTM for the past three and a half to four months, which is no small task. I'd hazard a guess that other teams (Edge is a good example) have been working far longer than three or four months in preparation for this upgrade. The Edge Team isn't the only one either; Store, OneDrive and Skype are others. All of these have to "sync" together for a great user experience.

    Personally, I prefer a clean install rather than an upgrade simply because whatever goes wrong (user error, glitches, malware, etc.) within the OS can be carried forward with an upgrade.

    Let's take a case in point . . . quite sometime back, my Windows 8.1 system was taken over by some stupid search engine that I did not want, but no matter what I did to uninstall it, it wouldn't go away. I asked for help from the denizens here and got a lot! (No surprise there!). After many hours of painstakingly working with anti malware programs, it eventually looked as if we got rid of the PUP (potentially unwanted program).

    In preparation to installing Windows 10 on this OEM machine, I upgraded from Windows 8.1 Home to Windows 8.1 Pro. The PUP still wasn't showing up so, so far, so good. Then on or about July 29, I upgraded to Windows 10 Pro. I occasionally booted into the RTM partition of my dual boot system and . . . yep, you guessed it . . . there was that blasted search engine I had such a hard time getting rid of (or not!).

    No matter how diligent we are, and I am, things get into Windows that Gramma's lye soap won't take off. And in that case, a clean install is in order.

    My reason for telling you all this should now be clear . . . Microsoft has perfected upgrades to the point that for the most part, nasties aren't ported into the upgrade, but that takes a lot, lot, lot of code. And . . . isn't always successful, as with my example above.

    However! Remember those who have complained that the upgrade uninstalled Speccy and CPUZ? Well, the installer saw those and for whatever its reasoning decided they're not "compatible". Not compatible means they could cause problems if left in the final product by Windows Update.

    Kinda makes ya wonder how many malware items the upgrade installer took out behind the scenes because it saw an "incompatibility" in something. Would it have uninstalled my rogue search engine? I don't know, but since I was on my fourth upgrade, I wasn't about to find out.
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  3. Posts : 3,234
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win10 Insider Preview, Win7 Home, Linux Mint
       15 Nov 2015 #1033

    Michaelvas17 said: View Post
    Is there a reason why that this release is 10586.3?
    It's to distinguish from the earlier Win10 1511 10586.0.

    Also of note is there are only 2 updates listed in my Win10 Home and Win10 Pro version 1511 10586.3, KB3105211 and KB3103688, none of the previous updates are on the installed list so that in itself appears to be a 'major' update.
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  4. Posts : 14,404
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       15 Nov 2015 #1034

    Michaelvas17 said: View Post
    Is there a reason why that this release is 10586.3?
    My guess is that the Insiders got Build 10586.0 a couple of weeks before the major update to Windows 10. We got some security updates and a cumulative update (which took us to 10586.3) the day before Version 1511 (10586.3) was released.

    Again, my guess is that Microsoft wanted the Insiders and the general public all to be on the same page for at least awhile.
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  5. Posts : 14,404
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       15 Nov 2015 #1035

    FrozenCursor said: View Post
    This TH2 thread got 1000+ replies and counting ...

    It made me apprehensive, but my TH2 via Windows Update went over well, I just had to change some settings afterwards

    I will say, though, that I am planning to upgrade my other boxes to Windows 10 only if future TH3 or TH4 or THx threads get less than 100 replies, less nerve-wrecking
    Guess what, Frozen? You ain't never gonna update again!
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  6. Posts : 11
    Windows 10 Home, 1511 Build 10586.3
       15 Nov 2015 #1036

    Is here someone who did clean install of this new build 10586 and during installation deleted all partitions but after finish of clean installation have in Disk management partition with 450MB?
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  7. Posts : 14,404
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       15 Nov 2015 #1037

    Kyhi said: View Post
    from cmd prompt > Winver
    Will it work from the Cmd Prompt? Curious because I usually Run: winver.
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  8. Posts : 14,404
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       15 Nov 2015 #1038

    FILDA91 said: View Post
    Is here someone who did clean install of this new build 10586 and during installation deleted all partitions but after finish of clean installation have in Disk management partition with 450MB?
    I did that once awhile back, but got into such a mess that I'm not gonna try it again.
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  9. Posts : 1,590
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       15 Nov 2015 #1039


    type ve (or ver or version)pause a half second or so, then enter

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  10.    15 Nov 2015 #1040

    FILDA91 said: View Post
    Is here someone who did clean install of this new build 10586 and during installation deleted all partitions but after finish of clean installation have in Disk management partition with 450MB?
    500 MB hidden System Reserved partition on my non UEFI system, and a 450 MB hidden Recovery ( I think it was labeled recovery?) partition on my UEFI system. Both were clean installs. Windows creates it automatically, its normal.
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