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  1.    23 Nov 2015 #191
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    I'm American and want Black Friday gone!
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  2.    23 Nov 2015 #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by vram View Post
    I'm American and want Black Friday gone!
    I thought Americans invented it.
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  3.    23 Nov 2015 #193
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    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    I thought Americans invented it.
    Nope, the greedy commercial enterprises invented it.
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  4.    23 Nov 2015 #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynona View Post
    Nope, the greedy commercial enterprises invented it.
    Are there any non-greedy ones ?
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  5.    23 Nov 2015 #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Are there any non-greedy ones ?
    Not any more
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  6.    24 Nov 2015 #196
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    Well people, I updated my Sony E series laptop to win 10 when the upgrade came, there were a few problems, all these problems were eventually solved by the windows update, the laptop worked almost as well as it did under win 8.1, two months after I updated Sony sent me info not to update to win 10 until notified as the laptop wouldn't function, I'm retired but I was a It Pro for 30+ years so I wasn't concerned if the update failed, I'd already tested a heap of clean installs of windows 10, it didn't and it hasn't missed a beat since. So much for oem advice.

    My usual advice for installing windows OS's up till win 8 was to wait for the sp1 release then update, my advice for most people on win 7 would be to wait till a month before the free offer ends, then upgrade, if your still unhappy with upgrade move back to win7, no point in whinging about it.
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  7.    24 Nov 2015 #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by PommieB View Post
    Well people, I updated my Sony E series laptop to win 10 when the upgrade came, there were a few problems, all these problems were eventually solved by the windows update, the laptop worked almost as well as it did under win 8.1, two months after I updated Sony sent me info not to update to win 10 until notified as the laptop wouldn't function, I'm retired but I was a It Pro for 30+ years so I wasn't concerned if the update failed, I'd already tested a heap of clean installs of windows 10, it didn't and it hasn't missed a beat since. So much for oem advice.

    My usual advice for installing windows OS's up till win 8 was to wait for the sp1 release then update, my advice for most people on win 7 would be to wait till a month before the free offer ends, then upgrade, if your still unhappy with upgrade move back to win7, no point in whinging about it.
    Now that's rational thinking !!!
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  8.    24 Nov 2015 #198

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Now that's rational thinking !!!
    Hi there

    another tack is for people to install W10 as a virtual machine for testing -- it's probably a bit late now but had they signed up to the Windows insider program they could have got various FREE copies of W10 to test (and continue testing) .

    Virtual machines are an EXCELLENT learning tool and these days the overheads are very tiny. They aren't any more difficult to set up either -- just about as complicated as installing any product and often a lot easier than getting a Mobile Phone app to work correctly.

    I've been using both the latest insider build and the current RTM releases as Virtual machines -- both work flawlessly and currently I can't find any difference between latest W10 after update and the insider build.

    A lot of the problems are often caused by people installing dubious software n their machines - usually a load of ad/crapware picked up from downloading the wrong file from a site (downloads are often deliberately made confusing so you accept "special offers". trial stuff etc etc) , accidental deletion of critical files, switching off machines without shutting down windows properly and not finding correct drivers.

    Condsidering the sheer variety of systems that windows has to run on and the level of expertise in users running it I think Ms actually has done a very decent job on it -- and I'm usually a CENTOS Linux user during the day too. At home I run more Windows machines.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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