Windows 10: PC Support Reps Tell Users to Uninstall Windows 10

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       09 Nov 2015 #130

    FrozenCursor said: View Post
    Ah, what I am saying is that the numbers may well add up correctly, e.g.

    64 people do new only = 64 new
    9 people do both new and upgrades = 9 new and 9 upgrades
    27 people do upgrades only = 27 upgrades
    That’s 100 people doing 73 new and 36 upgrades

    The numbers are very significant, but a different poll would yield different numbers, so you should not nickel and dime the numbers. Rather, you should look at what the numbers mean.
    You may have a point, Frozen, but if you look at the post I quoted, you'll see that he used percent, not number of people.
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  2.    09 Nov 2015 #131

    100 people polled = 100 polls = 100%
    73 new in 100 polls = 73% new
    36 upgrades in 100 polls = 36% upgrades

    Surprise, surprise, the numbers do add up :)
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    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 17083
       09 Nov 2015 #132

    FrozenCursor said: View Post
    100 people polled = 100 polls = 100%
    73 new in 100 polls = 73% new
    36 upgrades in 100 polls = 36% upgrades

    Surprise, surprise, the numbers do add up :)
    Until I see the complete poll, there's no need to discuss this. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Because for me, the numbers don't add up.
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  4.    09 Nov 2015 #133

    You just have to read such summary type of data correctly.
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       09 Nov 2015 #134

    Wynona said: View Post
    Until I see the complete poll, there's no need to discuss this. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Because for me, the numbers don't add up.
    Even if you see the numbers and they do add up, it's still just a poll. Give it to a different set of people at the same companies (such as those actually doing the upgrades rather than those that have time to take polls) and the numbers will be different. Give the poll to the same people a month later and the numbers will probably be different.

    And the numbers don't really mean much anyway - it's just data for statisticians to mull over. No company is going to change its upgrade plans because the majority of other companies have different plans; it will (hopefully) follow the plan that best fits its own needs. And I doubt any individual is going to change his or her plans because major corporations have other plans.

    On the other hand, the results of polls like this might influence oem support teams to get moving and get familiar with Windows 10 so they can provide assistance when assistance is needed. Even if they don't have an obligation to provide help for an upgrade, they will eventually be selling hardware with Win10 pre-installed. Providing help with upgrades might just be good training for them.
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  6.    10 Nov 2015 #135

    Surfing the net, I note that Windows 10 Enterprise comes with the mature Internet Explorer and not with the (currently) immature Edge of Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro. I would think that at some point in the hopefully not too distant future, a mature Edge will come to Windows 10 Enterprise as well. This is when Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro get an enterprise grade browser, methinks.
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       10 Nov 2015 #136

    FrozenCursor said: View Post
    Surfing the net, I note that Windows 10 Enterprise comes with the mature Internet Explorer and not with the (currently) immature Edge of Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro.
    Unless I'm missing something here I must say that Win10 Home and Win10 Pro also have Internet Explorer 11, just isn't pinned to the Start menu or Taskbar. However, once finding it in Apps, Windows Accessories it can be pinned to both places.
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  8.    10 Nov 2015 #137

    I realize that you can launch Internet Explorer in Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro, because Edge is not fully featured yet. When will Edge be fully featured? My best guess at the moment is: when Edge will be made available to Windows 10 Enterprise. At that point in time, Windows 10 passes another milestone towards being ready for 'work', all IMHO of course.
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    Win10 x64 Pro -2 desktops, 1 laptop
       10 Nov 2015 #138

    I think that milestone can adequately be reached and passed by installing Firefox.
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  •    10 Nov 2015 #139

    Firefox is not Windows 10. Not even Internet Explorer is Windows 10. Edge is Windows 10.
    Edge is thus a measuring stick (of many) for gauging Windows 10 readiness for 'work'.

    Another measuring stick is those polling stats discussed further up, BTW.
    They are very well meaningful, if you read them correctly.
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