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  1.    09 Nov 2015 #121
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    In a survey from Microsoft System Centre specialist Adaptiva, conducted at Microsoft Ignite 2015, 49 percent of IT Leaders said they planned to wait a year or more before updating. Of larger companies 80 percent of those with over 100,000 nodes said they are planning to adopt in a year or more. A rough calculation is: 'one year or more' is the end of 2016, early 2017. I did say 'agreement' but I should have said 'it was understood'. There was obviously no agreement - my bad. The biggest barriers to upgrading to Windows 10 were given as application compatibility and time investment (98 percent), followed by user training (35 percent), and product maturity (23 percent). To move to the new OS, nearly three-quarters (73 percent) of large organizations plan to use side-by-side replacements -- deploying new computers with Windows 10. This compares to 36 percent who plan to perform in-place upgrades to existing hardware.
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  2.    09 Nov 2015 #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopard View Post
    In a survey from Microsoft System Centre specialist Adaptiva, conducted at Microsoft Ignite 2015, 49 percent of IT Leaders said they planned to wait a year or more before updating. Of larger companies 80 percent of those with over 100,000 nodes said they are planning to adopt in a year or more. A rough calculation is: 'one year or more' is the end of 2016, early 2017. I did say 'agreement' but I should have said 'it was understood'. There was obviously no agreement - my bad. The biggest barriers to upgrading to Windows 10 were given as application compatibility and time investment (98 percent), followed by user training (35 percent), and product maturity (23 percent). To move to the new OS, nearly three-quarters (73 percent) of large organizations plan to use side-by-side replacements -- deploying new computers with Windows 10. This compares to 36 percent who plan to perform in-place upgrades to existing hardware.
    Thanks!
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  3.    09 Nov 2015 #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrozenCursor View Post
    Thanks!
    Could have swore you asked for a link?? Where's a link/reference??
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  4.    09 Nov 2015 #124
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    As to me wrong or you wrong - if you give the entire thread a fair read it is actually a mixed bag which includes the upgrade failures reported in this thread, support people then refusing to support the upgrade (see title of this thread), etc. If I did a selective reading, I could also say that you are wrong. That would not be very productive, let's not go there.

    Personally, I am much more interested to see things like new Windows 10 computers (73%), upgrade to Windows 10 (36%) in early 2017. That's a nice reference point for when Windows 10 will be ready for 'work', be it new or upgrade.
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  5.    09 Nov 2015 #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrozenCursor View Post
    As to me wrong or you wrong - if you give the entire thread a fair read it is actually a mixed bag which includes the upgrade failures reported in this thread, support people then refusing to support the upgrade (see title of this thread), etc. If I did a selective reading, I could also say that you are wrong. That would not be very productive, let's not go there.

    Personally, I am much more interested to see things like new Windows 10 computers (73%), upgrade to Windows 10 (36%) in early 2017. That's a nice reference point for when Windows 10 will be ready for 'work', be it new or upgrade.
    Its already ready for work, just not for the usual late adopters, which is fair enough. I buy a new phone and tablet with all the latest tech every 12 to 24 months, some people wait till they break down. I used to buy a new car every year now it's around every 2 or 3 years, everyone's different.

    I used to build a new computer every 6 months, now they're so fast I don't have to anymore, especially with Windows 10. I've had problems with the Previews of 10 but none with the RTM, maybe that's why you're figures could be way out, you're looking at two or more different versions of Windows 10.
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  6.    09 Nov 2015 #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopard View Post
    In a survey from Microsoft System Centre specialist Adaptiva, conducted at Microsoft Ignite 2015, 49 percent of IT Leaders said they planned to wait a year or more before updating. Of larger companies 80 percent of those with over 100,000 nodes said they are planning to adopt in a year or more. A rough calculation is: 'one year or more' is the end of 2016, early 2017. I did say 'agreement' but I should have said 'it was understood'. There was obviously no agreement - my bad. The biggest barriers to upgrading to Windows 10 were given as application compatibility and time investment (98 percent), followed by user training (35 percent), and product maturity (23 percent). To move to the new OS, nearly three-quarters (73 percent) of large organizations plan to use side-by-side replacements -- deploying new computers with Windows 10. This compares to 36 percent who plan to perform in-place upgrades to existing hardware.
    Could we have the link to your resource, please? I can't seem to resolve the poll numbers.

    If 49% of IT Leaders polled plan to wait a year or more before updating, it stands to reason that 51% are not planning to wait a year or more to upgrade.

    The biggest barriers to upgrading don't seem to add up:

    Application compatibility and time investment 98% + User training 35% + Product maturity 23% = 156%

    Deploying new computers w/Windows 10 73% + In-place Upgrades 36% = 109%
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  7.    09 Nov 2015 #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    Could have swore you asked for a link?? Where's a link/reference??
    He did ask for a reference, and was given a poll name, but no link. I think we need a link.
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  8.    09 Nov 2015 #128
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    I doubt that you can nickel and dime things like that, e.g. for the 73% + 36% = 109%, the 9% could well be planning for both new and upgrades. The most you can read from such summary type of data is that most are planning for new by 2017 (which is pretty drastic and quick, methinks)
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  9.    09 Nov 2015 #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrozenCursor View Post
    I doubt that you can nickel and dime things like that, e.g. for the 73% + 36% = 109%, the 9% could well be planning for both new and upgrades. The most you can read from such summary type of data is that most are planning for new by 2017 (which is pretty drastic and quick, methinks)
    Exactly. The data doesn't give anything concrete and without a link to the original poll, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You can have 100% of those polled, but not more than 100%, which is what the numbers show.
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  10.    09 Nov 2015 #130
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    Ah, what I am saying is that the numbers may well add up correctly, e.g.

    64 people do new only = 64 new
    9 people do both new and upgrades = 9 new and 9 upgrades
    27 people do upgrades only = 27 upgrades
    Thatís 100 people doing 73 new and 36 upgrades

    The numbers are very significant, but a different poll would yield different numbers, so you should not nickel and dime the numbers. Rather, you should look at what the numbers mean.
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