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  1. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
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    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       14 Nov 2014 #241

    badrobot said: View Post
    My monitors only go to sleep if they don't detect any signal from the PC. I don't have this issue with Win 7 and Linux OS. My monitors and displays are always on as long as the PC is on. I always set my PC to "Never Sleep". But this time the same settings don't work with the new build. I probably need to do a clean install. Clean installation fixes a lot of minor issues from updates.
    Fair enough.

    Did you update only OR update, create an ISO and then perform a clean install?
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  2. Joined : Nov 2013
    Toronto
    Posts : 4,288
    Win 10 Pro x64
       14 Nov 2014 #242

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    badrobot said: View Post
    My monitors only go to sleep if they don't detect any signal from the PC. I don't have this issue with Win 7 and Linux OS. My monitors and displays are always on as long as the PC is on. I always set my PC to "Never Sleep". But this time the same settings don't work with the new build. I probably need to do a clean install. Clean installation fixes a lot of minor issues from updates.
    Fair enough.

    Did you update only OR update, create an ISO and then perform a clean install?



    Just update. I have yet to create an ISO which I tried twice last night but I was getting an error towards the end. Again, I am blaming it to the update. I will copy esd file and try to do it on Win 7 tonight.
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  3. Joined : Oct 2013
    Nothern Ohio
    Posts : 446
    Windows 7/64 Professional
       14 Nov 2014 #243

    I just updated to 9879 (no ISO) and so far other that putting a few settings back the way I wanted them, no problems.
    I had to turn on system protection and make a restore point.
    I did use Disk Clean Extended and remove Windows 10 old.
    The Intel Toolbox still works but faster than before.
    Ccleaner works.
    I had to change (put back) my desktop color and font size as I want them. No big deal.
    You can now remove the Task View button and the Show Search buttons if you care to just by right ticking on them.
    Right ticking one the Taskbar gives you the option to put them back on the Taskbar. I like that option.
    If you check you will find that after the install Defender wants to scan your system. I don't really need it to scan but I will just to make the install happy.

    Just got to do some more look seeing after the scan.
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  4. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,540
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       14 Nov 2014 #244

    BunnyJ

    One of the articles that was linked on tenforums or the other sister forums. Microsoft spokesperson stated that windows 10 will be a combination of Windows 7 & 8.1 if you leave out Windows 7 stuff, it is not a combination.

    CountMike,
    EU version doesn't include I.E. but I don't know how that really works. I tried almost every free distro & desktop that would install. Myself, I use lubuntu and then I installed xfce4 desktop. When I use Linux, I use xfce4 desktop almost 99% of the time. I rarely go into lubuntu default desktop. I know I could of use xubuntu its default desktop is xfce4 but that never worked very well on my computer. I am not blaming the developers, it most likely the computer hardware. I would say I use windows 7 & Linux about equal. I am also odd, Most of the time, I use the Seamonkey browser in Windows 7 & in Linux.
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  5. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,932
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       14 Nov 2014 #245

    groze said: View Post
    BunnyJ

    One of the articles that was linked on tenforums or the other sister forums. Microsoft spokesperson stated that windows 10 will be a combination of Windows 7 & 8.1 if you leave out Windows 7 stuff, it is not a combination.
    So how is it not??
    EDIT: I ask because everyone has a different precipitation of what a combination of the OS's should look like and I just want to get understand your definition.
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  6.    14 Nov 2014 #246

    badrobot said: View Post
    groze said: View Post
    Well I am not quite certain which part of Windows 10 resembles Windows 7 that you are referring to, but even with that said;

    After using Microsoft software for over 30 years,
    Yes I could change to Linux or OSX, or I can stay with Win7 or Windows 8.1 with my Start8, all of which are very good operating systems.

    I am content with Windows 8.1 and my Start8 menu, I see no reason to change (at least not to Windows 10, it is my least favorite), IMHO Windows 10 is simply not very elegant, but I will keep your suggestion in mind.
    I agree with Trust_No1, when I was testing out windows 10, there is no part that resembles Windows 7 that I noticed. That sure won't get Windows 7 uses to move to Windows 10.

    Trust_No1, there are several Linux desktops with start menu (technically called application menu) that are similar to windows 98se through Windows 7. Even if you find a favorite distro, you can also install your favorite desktop.

    Microsoft ought to take a cue from Linux. Have different desktops add ons that can be added from windows 1.0 through windows 10 and on.


    When I say "like" Win7, I am referring mostly to desktop interface (keyboard and mouse) rather than the start screen.

    What is the use of developing a new OS if we all want the old stuffs? This Tech Preview is MS' way of getting the us ready for things to come. If you don't embrace change now, you will forever hold your peace.
    I do embrace change, but, I don't embrace change just for changes sake. Change has to have a purpose and hopefully bring about improvement.

    While I think that things like the addition of a tiled menu is nice, (though it should be toggled). I don't think the other portion of the menu is an improvement. Windows 7 menu is very efficient IMO. But beyond the menu, removing the hot corners and charms bar, features that make Windows 8 great, doesn't make sense and not logical to me. At the very least give people a choice to turn it off or on, then you have an OS that appeals to many.

    I like some of the improvements,
    the windowed apps is a great feature and elegant, a nice melding of 7 and 8.
    the tiled menu, I just don't like it always on.

    Ummm, I am trying to think what else I like, but drawing a blank. But;

    Windows 10 I thought was supposed to be about bringing more people back, and a blending of Windows 8 and 7. Am I wrong on that? At this point of it's journey, I feel Window's 10 strays from that path, I feel it splits the two, you can either have this or that, which for me, makes it feel lacking.

    For goodness sake, Brink gives us hot fixes, that help bring the two back together, his changer for switching desktop and start screen without logging, his desktop charms bar short cuts. They are great hacks, but alas, they are still hacks and I feel we shouldn't need them.

    A beta is presented to allow feedback, so it is my feedback, that Windows 10 (thus far) misses the mark.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,540
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       14 Nov 2014 #247

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    groze said: View Post
    BunnyJ

    One of the articles that was linked on tenforums or the other sister forums. Microsoft spokesperson stated that windows 10 will be a combination of Windows 7 & 8.1 if you leave out Windows 7 stuff, it is not a combination.
    So how is it not?? And which link are you referring to??
    I don't think this site was linked.

    Windows 10 is the official name for Microsoft's next version of Windows | The Verge

    When you put all that together, the end result looks a lot like Windows 7. That's intentional. Microsoft's Joe Belfiore pointed to the millions of customers still using Windows 7, and said the company wants to make their transition to Windows 10 much more comfortable than the unfamiliar leap to Windows 8 two years ago. "We want all these Windows 7 users to have the sentiment that yesterday they were driving a first-generation Prius, and now with Windows 10 it's like a Tesla."
    I wish I knew more about cars though.
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  8. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,932
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       14 Nov 2014 #248

    groze said: View Post
    BunnyJ said: View Post
    groze said: View Post
    BunnyJ

    One of the articles that was linked on tenforums or the other sister forums. Microsoft spokesperson stated that windows 10 will be a combination of Windows 7 & 8.1 if you leave out Windows 7 stuff, it is not a combination.
    So how is it not?? And which link are you referring to??
    I don't think this site was linked.

    Windows 10 is the official name for Microsoft's next version of Windows | The Verge

    When you put all that together, the end result looks a lot like Windows 7. That's intentional. Microsoft's Joe Belfiore pointed to the millions of customers still using Windows 7, and said the company wants to make their transition to Windows 10 much more comfortable than the unfamiliar leap to Windows 8 two years ago. "We want all these Windows 7 users to have the sentiment that yesterday they were driving a first-generation Prius, and now with Windows 10 it's like a Tesla."
    I wish I knew more about cars though.
    Thanks for the post/link.
    What MS could have done,, IMO, is have an option to select the menu type you can make use of, Win7 or the new Win10.
    That way you get what you want.. sort of. No one will be totally happy but that might have been a shot in the right direction. Oh and make that selection one that you can change any time you want to.

    Jeff
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  9. Joined : Oct 2014
    Posts : 1,540
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       14 Nov 2014 #249

    Little off-topic but here is a pic of my custom made start menu from windows 7

    Click image for larger version. 

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  10. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,932
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       14 Nov 2014 #250

    ^^ Now that's nice.. and good work!!

    Jeff
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