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  1. Wynona's Avatar
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    Fafhrd said:
    It bodes ill for those who think that there will be free perpetual upgrades for Windows 10 with Redstone and beyond, without tie-ins to paid services such as Office 365.
    C'mon folks, buy a subscription to Microsoft office 2020 and get Windows thrown in free with it. And 5 GB Cloud Storage!
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  2. Superfly's Avatar
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       #81

    AllenChicago said:
    There must be more to this story than what meets the eye.
    My take on this is that MS probably has pentabytes on server farms that remain unused (as most snapped up the free stuff without really having an intention of using it) - the maintenance cost of that could be offset by using it for other purposes (like repositories etc)
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  3. Fafhrd's Avatar
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    Superfly said:
    My take on this is that MS probably has pentabytes on server farms that remain unused (as most snapped up the free stuff without really having an intention of using it) - the maintenance cost of that could be offset by using it for other purposes (like repositories etc)
    The Government has possibly been looking around for places to store all the stuff they've gleaned online, but haven't gotten around to processing yet, and offered a nice deal to MS that they couldn't refuse.

    Wynona said:
    C'mon folks, buy a subscription to Microsoft office 2020 and get Windows thrown in free with it. And 5 GB Cloud Storage!
    Exactly!

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    Wynona said:
    Since I have O365 ProPlus (Business), I was interested in this one:

    At the same time it made the consumer OneDrive announcements, Microsoft also told its Office 365 business and enterprise subscribers that they could expect unlimited storage in OneDrive for Business.
    We have OneDrive for Business at work, and it's totally different to personal OneDrive.

    It's built on a different technology (Sharepoint) and it's not very good!

    It's forever losing sync for files, and also space-hogging (as well as the local copy of the file itself, its working folder seems to hold each file again).

    Plus there are all sorts of arbitrary restrictions; for instance certain characters allowed elsewhere aren't allowed in Sharepoint filenames, and a person's Onedrive for Business can only hold 20,000 files at present.

    Also it disables features in Office, so for instance if you accidentally close a file without remembering to save, Excel 2013 will normally keep a copy for you so you can get it back... but if the file was stored on a OneDrive, you've lost your changes.

    So unless they change the technology fundamentally (and it's possible they might), I wouldn't recommend it.

    Edit: Also, it messes up 'Last modified' dates on both the local and server copies. Sometimes I save a file and the last modified date doesn't change. Other times when it has a sync failure and you try to repair it, all the last modified dates change to the time and date when it tried to repair.

    And it relies on an Access Database which can get corrupted (which means you can't even access local versions of files on your local disk), but apparently it doesn't have the wit to run a Repair and Compact itself every so often (which I seem to remember was recommended from years ago when I used Access databases more often).
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  5. paulsalter's Avatar
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    sygnus21 said:
    This is why I never rely on "free" as things can change and now you're stuck with either paying for the service, or having to go through the inconvenience of finding an alternate solution. This why I don't use cloud as my base storage for any large amount of data.

    As the business motto goes - TANSTAAFL (There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch)
    The problem with using Groove for your music is that it only supports Onedrive for streaming your content (someone correct me if I am wrong on that)
    With 30GB you could get a fair amount of your music online for streaming on all your MS devices, now the space is down to 5GB I imagine it will affect a lot of people who use this feature (which has been very popular from what I have read)

    I can see this backfiring on MS, now they are going to tell people to take out a subscription to continue using this feature (If you want more than 5GB of your music available to stream on all devices)
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  6. OldMike65's Avatar
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    Antilope said:
    Ultimately, I don't trust any "free" cloud storage solution. It can be taken away at any time, as shown here. An external 1-TB sata drive connected through USB 3.0 is less than $50. That's my backup solution.
    I agree 100% as I have even turned off cloud on my computer, I just never liked the idea of keeping any of my files on any type of cloud storage on the internet. I don't care what type of internet storage system is offered. I don't see any need for using it in my case. Internal and external drive prices are very cheap these days, just like Antilope has stated.
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  7. paulsalter's Avatar
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       #86

    External drives are fine if all you want is to do backups

    For sharing data they are not as easy
    Put files in the cloud and you can access them on any other device you have
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  8. OldMike65's Avatar
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    paulsalter said:
    External drives are fine if all you want is to do backups

    For sharing data they are not as easy
    Put files in the cloud and you can access them on any other device you have
    Well then I guess I am lucky then, as I have no use for any cloud feature on my computers or my cell phone. Only thing that is like a cloud feature that I can think of, that I do use, is my email. That is stored on the internet just like everyone else.
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  9. Cluster Head's Avatar
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    Microsoft Never Expected OneDrive to Become an All-You-Can-Eat Buffet


    Redmond will reduce the free cloud storage offered to users


    Microsoft recently announced that, starting early 2016, new and current OneDrive users would receive only 5 GB of storage in their online accounts, while the unlimited storage plans would no longer be available, no matter if we’re talking about paying customers or free.

    The reason for this decision, at least according to Microsoft, is that many people actually use their online storage to upload movies, videos, and DVR recordings that obviously eat up too much space. So basically, Microsoft found out the hard way that if you give customers unlimited storage space, they actually use.

    But according to IDC analyst Liz Conner, the Redmond-based tech giant never expected OneDrive to become an all-you-can-eat buffet, and the company actually hoped that people would use its service for storing backups, documents, and images that don’t take up too much space.

    “My guess is that Microsoft intended OneDrive to be more a cache for documents and productivity, never intending it to be a replacement for an external storage device to back up one’s entire computer, music, movie collection, etc,” Conner was quoted as saying
    Read more: http://news.softpedia.com/news/micro...ampaign=buffer
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  10. paulsalter's Avatar
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       #89

    Just to comment on the last bit about them not thinking people will store media on Onedrive, MS want people to do this

    MS Downgrades free Onedrive storage, ends unlimited for Office 365-wantinguseod.png
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