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  1.    04 Nov 2015 #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by blutos cousin View Post
    I used Avast free and and MSE /Defender together and AVG free with MSE together along with mbam on a couple of Win 7 x64 boxes here for a few years no problems attributable to that .

    Convention says not to run two resident AV programs together although they were doing that at Cnet or one of the writers was IIRC. I just set mutual exclusions for each respective AV program and never had a problem aside from a nasty Conflict malware variant on one of the boxes 6 months before any of the AV programs heard of it , it was a bear to clean out I had to use several one time extra strength cleaners and edit the reg and a lot of files afterwards that stiff was even in the root directory, or root folder I would have been able to do a clean install much easier.

    FWIW IE 11 and Chrome survived after some cleaning but F/F was totally destroyed beyond repair and I wasn't even using it .


    It came in a drive by from a legitimate nationally know forum website page it even got though the ad blockers and lot of folks without another PC went dark and either way had to wipe their drives and re install.

    IIRC MSE vs Avast and AVG had different Heuristic behavior patterns in both cases so the idea was you got more coverage that way . I don't know if you can do that in Windows 10 though and most of the MS software engineers at Windows Insider forum are clueless I honestly don't know what they get paid for not to mention viruses are allegedly becoming less popular and more malware is appearing .
    If something like that had happened to me, I would most likely just go to one of my backup images and re-install my OS. But on another note, Malwarebytes didn't need any special setting to run along side my Norton 360 Pro. I just make sure they don't run their checks at the same time, and that's all that is needed. I spoke with one of the techs at MB and they have made Malwarebytes to run compatible with programs like Norton. I May switch back to the Windows firewall, when my Norton subscription expires. Still thinking about that. But I am not going to switch until Norton expires. I am running it on both my computers, along with MB which is also on both my computers. I LOVE MB !!! lol
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  2.    04 Nov 2015 #42

    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    That was the results for Windows 7. Windows 10 has a much improved version and it wasn't rated.

    I would be very interested on reading about this "much improved" new version of Defender , i mean i heard that it's better but i would like to read about the "hows and why's" , can you provide a link ?
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  3.    04 Nov 2015 #43

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Whatever one uses or doesn't use for real time protection, or "protection", it's best to go thru whole system with a fine comb using several other programs available that address specific threats . Would be surprised what can wiggle out from underneath the stone. I do that every time I make full system backup, suspect something or get bored.

    Hi Count , i agree , i would bet that many computer users these days think that since their computer is working well the chance of it having some type of malware is low , thats not always the case, from from it actually .

    Todays rootkit's are purposely designed to hide and be very difficult to detect . Your computer is unlikely to show any symptoms at all , thats whats so scary about them .
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  4.    04 Nov 2015 #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    If something like that had happened to me, I would most likely just go to one of my backup images and re-install my OS. But on another note, Malwarebytes didn't need any special setting to run along side my Norton 360 Pro. I just make sure they don't run their checks at the same time, and that's all that is needed. I spoke with one of the techs at MB and they have made Malwarebytes to run compatible with programs like Norton. I May switch back to the Windows firewall, when my Norton subscription expires. Still thinking about that. But I am not going to switch until Norton expires. I am running it on both my computers, along with MB which is also on both my computers. I LOVE MB !!! lol
    Do you mean that you do the Norton and MB scans one after the other?
    Can't do the scans simultaneously to save time?
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  5.    05 Nov 2015 #45

    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Though you have a point, one could also argue that perhaps MSE isn't flagging all it should be. In short, maybe it's missing stuff is should be catching.

    Peace
    My thoughts exactly. I used MSIE/WinDefender for 3 years and not once did either program give me any warnings. But the size of their databases, and the amount of RAM consumed kept snowballing. So I changed to AVAST in 2014. It's blocked a couple of suspected Trojans, but overall, the internet seems to be more user friendly when it comes to viruses and malware than it was 5-10 years ago.
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  6.    05 Nov 2015 #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenChicago View Post
    My thoughts exactly. I used MSIE/WinDefender for 3 years and not once did either program give me any warnings. But the size of their databases, and the amount of RAM consumed kept snowballing. So I changed to AVAST in 2014. It's blocked a couple of suspected Trojans, but overall, the internet seems to be more user friendly when it comes to viruses and malware than it was 5-10 years ago.
    That's because site and server protection has been improved and also because of target for malware has changed to more lucrative spheres. What has seen growth, at least for us normal users are PUPs (it's not official but I consider them malware) and other "Sneakware" attached to another program. With some vigilance most can be avoided or/and cleaned afterwards.
    The most dangerous of all is ransomware and can be avoided by some common sense but too many still fall for that otherwise it would disappear.
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  7.    05 Nov 2015 #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrozenCursor View Post
    Do you mean that you do the Norton and MB scans one after the other?
    Can't do the scans simultaneously to save time?
    Of course you can't do TWO scans at the same time, both my programs scan at different times. Hours apart actually. With my system a full scan takes 5 mins for MB and about the same for Norton. That's not a lot of time, but everyones computer is different. So scan times will also be different.
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  8.    05 Nov 2015 #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredc View Post
    Hi Count , i agree , i would bet that many computer users these days think that since their computer is working well the chance of it having some type of malware is low , thats not always the case, from from it actually .

    Todays rootkit's are purposely designed to hide and be very difficult to detect . Your computer is unlikely to show any symptoms at all , thats whats so scary about them .
    May I ask, what anti-rootkit tools do people here use?
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  9.    05 Nov 2015 #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenChicago View Post
    ... but overall, the internet seems to be more user friendly when it comes to viruses and malware than it was 5-10 years ago.
    Can not agree with this part of your statement. I am sure there is just as much or even more than there was 5-10 years ago specifically due to the 'business' startups on the Darknet that specialize in this enterprise. This stuff hits the internet for a number of reasons - today it is mostly political or anti business. Havoc costs. The spiteful stuff has lessened but still exists. Most viruses and malware developers have set their sites on Android and Apple has been hit across their ecosystem more than ever before. The PC is still a target , whether you use Linux or Windows. No matter the OS or platform, the predators are invariably seeking the easiest prey and right now it is primarily the smartphone user. Viruses and malware are like the canaries in the mine - if the little birdie survives a sortie, then the coast is clear to send in the raptors. These birdies tear flesh from bone.
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  10.    05 Nov 2015 #50
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    March 5, 2015. "CYREN Security Lab monitors more than 17 billion transactions on a daily basis and identifies cyber-attacks as well as malware distribution attempts. The company released a comprehensive report today, detailing that malware distribution attempts have increased by 159 % since the last report published at the beginning of 2014. At the same time, emails containing malware also increased by 50 %, which means that each day, email users would receive 50 % malware emails in their inbox. =====> "http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cyren-receives-icsa-labs-excellence-in-information-security-testing-award-300069125.html
    Last edited by Leopard; 05 Nov 2015 at 08:39. Reason: added link
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