Windows 10: Microsoft Security Essentials Scores Incredibly Well in New Antivirus

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  1. Posts : 8,167
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint
       02 Nov 2015 #11

    Cluster Head said: View Post
    The result of another test from Germany - August 2015



    Bitdefender - 100%

    Source: https://www.av-test.org/de/antivirus/privat-windows/
    That was the results for Windows 7. Windows 10 has a much improved version and it wasn't rated.
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  2.    02 Nov 2015 #12

    CountMike said: View Post
    NOD32 is absolute ace in false positives, it drove me nuts.
    One of the things that Norton does is scan files for usage - this is if a download/file is rarely used or downloaded, Norton will "question" it and that can be alarming for some that aren't computer savvy and have to make a decision whether to keep the file or not. That's said, you can always exempt files from being scanned or flagged.

    I've got a printer program on my PC which NAV constantly false positives one of it's exe's and remove it. I've had to exempt it from being scanned and mark it as safe.
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  3. Posts : 1,563
    Windows 10 Pro x64 RS 10586.586
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       02 Nov 2015 #13

    essenbe said: View Post
    That was the results for Windows 7. Windows 10 has a much improved version and it wasn't rated.
    Ups....! Sorry.....!
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  4.    02 Nov 2015 #14

    Cluster Head said: View Post
    Ups....! Sorry.....!
    Defender was not very good at the beginning so they used it as reference point to show how much better were other ones. Last 6 month or so, I have a feeling that it much improved. It caught some stuff in files I had downloaded before and it missed then. It also downloads new detection several times a day. I also check with other AVs on demand and they are not catching anything that WD missed.
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  5. Posts : 26,330
    Windows10Pro 64Bit - Build 14393.1198
       02 Nov 2015 #15

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    One of the things that Norton does is scan files for usage - this is if a download/file is rarely used or downloaded, Norton will "question" it and that can be alarming for some that aren't computer savvy and have to make a decision whether to keep the file or not. That's said, you can always exempt files from being scanned or flagged.

    I've got a printer program on my PC which NAV constantly false positives one of it's exe's and remove it. I've had to exempt it from being scanned and mark it as safe.
    I just liked the fact that Norton's scored so high in the 1st report.....#2 is not a bad spot. So tired of folks flaming Norton.
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  6.    02 Nov 2015 #16

    I remember when Symantec issued an announcement stating that AVs are no longer relevant - they provide limited to questionable safety. That was a bombshell that shook the industry. Over the following years many users dropped AVs totally - I see it on a lot of forums. They claim they have been virus free for years - even those who still use XP. Now these guys have mult-layers of security installed so it is not as if they have no protection what-so-ever., so that has to be taken into account. I understand that MSE on W7/8 has been updated to W10 Defender level. Zero-day is not an AV strength - has to be acknowledged, but for me, even though I have layered support, I still have an AV installed. MSE has improved tremendously over the past 2 years and with browser safety turned on, it is a good addition, IMHO.
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  7. Posts : 26,330
    Windows10Pro 64Bit - Build 14393.1198
       02 Nov 2015 #17

    Leopard said: View Post
    I remember when Symantec issued an announcement stating that AVs are no longer relevant - they provide limited to questionable safety. That was a bombshell that shook the industry. Over the following years many users dropped AVs totally - I see it on a lot of forums. They claim they have been virus free for years - even those who still use XP. Now these guys have mult-layers of security installed so it is not as if they have no protection what-so-ever., so that has to be taken into account. I understand that MSE on W7/8 has been updated to W10 Defender level. Zero-day is not an AV strength - has to be acknowledged, but for me, even though I have layered support, I still have an AV installed. MSE has improved tremendously over the past 2 years and with browser safety turned on, it is a good addition, IMHO.
    Yeah, I also own Malwarebytes Pro, which runs right next to my Nortons. They can both be on at the same time, and get along fine. I even have a 3rd AV program, that only runs when I turn it on. So think I got things covered.
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  8. Posts : 2,554
    Windows 10 Home x64: 1607 Redstone (1) Build 14393.1198
       02 Nov 2015 #18

    I have a third party anti virus and my laptop certainly is not slow at all
    Click on a site or forum and goes straight in
    click on Edge and goes straight in on one click so where is slow on that.
    Facebook that IE11 used to give me trouble now one click enter password and loads straight in.
    So how is that slow
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  9.    02 Nov 2015 #19

    The elephant in the room is that there aren't so many 'viruses' around now. Instead, virtually all infestations I see on client's computers are PUPs and AV programs don't stop these as they are invited in.

    My client record is 3,300 entries in Malwarebytes but others have seen even bigger numbers.

    I have only used MSE for years and, yes, it will let PUPs in.

    But still encouraging results from Clusterhead, even though I don't place much store in these tests.
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  10. Posts : 2,554
    Windows 10 Home x64: 1607 Redstone (1) Build 14393.1198
       02 Nov 2015 #20

    I would rather be safe than sorry and I have always been told make sure you have your anti virus turned on.
    That was from a Microsoft Rep
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