Windows 10: Microsoft: Windows 10 Users Should Say No to Chrome and Firefox

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  1. Posts : 136
    Windows 10 Pro Edition Build 14393.105
       08 Nov 2015 #281

    Hi All,
    As far as the Edge browser goes..little by little it's getting better, with that said..I'll like it better when it supports extension's, at least for me the LastPass password manager. As far as other browser's, I was using firefox..but kept having issue's with the way it printed web page's, now I'm using the latest google chrome browser..it prints correctly. Of course that's just my opinion.
    David
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  2.    08 Nov 2015 #282

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    It's the Chromium Project that Edge have to beat: 530 is the number to reach. Under 10240 it was at 402 and now it's at 458 (10586). There making progress but till then there's a long journey ahead.
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    Windows 10 Home x64: 1607 Redstone (1) Build 14393.726
       08 Nov 2015 #283

    It is getting there that in my eyes is all that matters
    After all the others it has to beat have been going a lot longer
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  4.    08 Nov 2015 #284

    For me Pale Moon is there. Firefox is there. I do test Edge when I'm running Win 10 TP. It's OK and has improved. I still don't see anything in Edge to make me want to change my from default browser.
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    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       08 Nov 2015 #285

    Those benchmarks are irrelevant, and it is funny (sad) they are always used by, not just ordinary people, but also by the media in browser tests. Things which are relevant are real world examples, like:

    - render cpu usage
    - (scrolling) speed with lots of gifs/crowded stuff/pages on the screen (for example tumblr dashboard)
    - html5 video cpu usage
    - scrolling speed in general

    And in these, Edge, but also already IE11 was, is beyond anything Chrome and especially Firefox can offer. Chrome got a "bit" better, but not much. The normal uses doesnt notice these scenarios much because of working on a desktop PC with a strong CPU. But if you go away from that, more and more, it shows how good Edge/IE11 is programmed compared to bad Chrome and terrible Firefox. Best real word scenario: Take a baytrail tablet. Edge/IE11 will literally blow away Chrome and especially Firecrap.
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  6. Night Hawk's Avatar
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    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       08 Nov 2015 #286

    Winuser said: View Post
    For me Pale Moon is there. Firefox is there. I do test Edge when I'm running Win 10 TP. It's OK and has improved. I still don't see anything in Edge to make me want to change my from default browser.
    There is no longer any TP builds. Anything following the 10240 would be the Insider Preview builds with the latest being the Threshold 2 without any watermark which might just be seen as an update for the 10240 very soon! It also is allowing the use of product keys from the previous versions.

    The Core people refer to or in actuality the MinWin kernel progressed on since 7 sees the core of the OS made modular and why MS is likely seeing the same being needed for the browser as well. The design isn't so much for sand boxing but see less resources used over what has been being seen with IE and other browsers over the years.
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  7.    09 Nov 2015 #287

    Night Hawk said: View Post
    There is no longer any TP builds. Anything following the 10240 would be the Insider Preview builds with the latest being the Threshold 2 without any watermark which might just be seen as an update for the 10240 very soon! It also is allowing the use of product keys from the previous versions.

    The Core people refer to or in actuality the MinWin kernel progressed on since 7 sees the core of the OS made modular and why MS is likely seeing the same being needed for the browser as well. The design isn't so much for sand boxing but see less resources used over what has been being seen with IE and other browsers over the years.
    I know MS from changed the name from 10 TP to 10 Preview. It's still for testing and that's what I use it for. I still do my main computing in the RTM version.
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  8.    09 Nov 2015 #288

    mkdr said: View Post
    Those benchmarks are irrelevant, and it is funny (sad) they are always used by, not just ordinary people, but also by the media in browser tests. Things which are relevant are real world examples, like:

    - render cpu usage
    - (scrolling) speed with lots of gifs/crowded stuff/pages on the screen (for example tumblr dashboard)
    - html5 video cpu usage
    - scrolling speed in general

    And in these, Edge, but also already IE11 was, is beyond anything Chrome and especially Firefox can offer. Chrome got a "bit" better, but not much. The normal uses doesnt notice these scenarios much because of working on a desktop PC with a strong CPU. But if you go away from that, more and more, it shows how good Edge/IE11 is programmed compared to bad Chrome and terrible Firefox. Best real word scenario: Take a baytrail tablet. Edge/IE11 will literally blow away Chrome and especially Firecrap.
    Abolutely correct.
    I have such a Baytrail Tablet (N2940, 4GB RAM) and Edge is running absolutely smooth, even on "overloaded" websites with tons of ads.
    Firefox is slow as hell, scrolling websites stutters, pinch2zoom doesn't even work halfway.
    Chrome is a lot better, but also some steps away from EDGE.
    BUT...until EDGE supports at least some Anti tracker and Adblock addon, it is unusable too.
    So I can only chose between Plague and Cholera.
    Crap.
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  9. Posts : 146
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       09 Nov 2015 #289

    @vel2000 You dont need crappy adblock addons. You could still use IE11 which supports blocking ( http://www.iegallery.com/en-us/trackingprotectionlists ), or better, use a DNS block in your routers hosts file, or via your Windows hosts file, Google "winhelp mvps hosts".
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  10.    09 Nov 2015 #290

    MS sound a bit desperate in the OP. I have never used MS software, apart from O/S, and probably never will. If hackers want a way in, it's the big boy's they'll hit first.
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