Page 6 of 9 FirstFirst ... 45678 ... LastLast
  1.    26 Oct 2015 #51
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 9,370
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    That part of I'm fully aware of; however there was talk here that the reason you also only got 30 days was because after that your old Windows PID also became invalid as it was used in place of the required PID for Win 10.

    This was a big bone of contention here (this forum) when Win 10 was first released to the general public. In fact, the other issue tied with it was system upgrades. In other worlds - can one upgrade their PC (MB, RAM, CPU) without havng to purchase a copy of Win 10? I'm not sure that question has been adequately answered as well, but...

    At any rate I'm a bit too lazy to search for the thread but I'm sure some, if not most, here remember that debate.

    Thanks.
    And the main proponent of that false theory, Kari, posted back and admitted that he was wrong once he performed a valid experiment that didn't involve using the same product key multiple times on multiple different computers. Many of us here have used our old OS keys after 30 days after upgrades and they continue to work just fine. But old myths do die very hard.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  2.    26 Oct 2015 #52
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 3,694
    10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    It's confusing because MS made it that way otherwise you wouldn't have had the myriad of articles, threads, posts and questions all over the place asking for clarification.
    What is confusing (annoying anyway) is that at the moment if you upgrade from retail 7 or 8 to 10240 you can't move that activation (without spending hours on the phone) even though the EULA says you can.

    I run Windows 10 in bootcamp on Apple which means sometimes I native boot into Windows and also sometimes run the same partition as VM through VMWare when signed onto OSX. This just doesn't work with upgrade license - it doesn't matter if you upgrade one or the other or both to get registered on the MS servers - it just doesn't work. To do that you need a Windows 10 retail key (which I got by phoning Microsoft and asking for one).

    Even in that case - when I've been given a retail 10 key to replace it - my original 7 key still works (not that I have any need for it any more).
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  3.    26 Oct 2015 #53
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    USA
    Posts : 1,575
    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    And the main proponent of that false theory, Kari, posted back and admitted that he was wrong once he performed a valid experiment that didn't involve using the same product key multiple times on multiple different computers. Many of us here have used our old OS keys after 30 days after upgrades and they continue to work just fine. But old myths do die very hard.
    I'm not sure what falsity Kari was perpetuating so I'll address your post like this...

    Regarding PC upgrades... There were many sites and others pushing the same thing because MS provided vague and confusing answers which left way more questions then those answers provided. In fact, I'm still not so sure what the answer is.

    As for the Win 7 & 8 PID reusability - its good to hear you and others had no problem reclaiming them when reverting back beyond 30 days. However, MS also initially left some dazed and confusing answers to that one as well.

    At any rate I thank you for your replies.

    And for the record, Kari and I have a good rapport so... but I do understand people make mistakes.

    Anyway Peace
      My ComputersSystem Spec
  4.    02 Nov 2015 #54
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    New York
    Posts : 187
    Windows 10

    A friend of mine wants to do this new way...making an iso with the tool on the microsoft site and rather then doing the upgrade from his old 7 install, would like to simply clean install with the iso and use his windows 7 key to activate it...Anyone know if it is in effective yet? If not, how would we know when?
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  5.    03 Nov 2015 #55
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
    Posts : 1,826
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    A friend of mine wants to do this new way...making an iso with the tool on the microsoft site and rather then doing the upgrade from his old 7 install, would like to simply clean install with the iso and use his windows 7 key to activate it...Anyone know if it is in effective yet? If not, how would we know when?
    The build required for this activation by key from 7 or 8, is 10565 or later - currently these are time limited to July 2016. If your friend wishes a non-evaluation version they should obtain the RTM version from the Media Creation tool, and follow the instructions here:
    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First - Windows 10 Forums
      My ComputersSystem Spec
  6.    03 Nov 2015 #56
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 3,694
    10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    The build required for this activation by key from 7 or 8, is 10565 or later - currently these are time limited to July 2016.
    Alternatively if you activate 10565 with key you can then clean install 10240, skip entering the key and it activates automatically through digital entitlement.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  7.    03 Nov 2015 #57
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
    Posts : 1,826
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    Quote Originally Posted by halasz View Post
    Alternatively if you activate 10565 with key you can then clean install 10240, skip entering the key and it activates automatically through digital entitlement.
    That's actually 2 installs - an upgrade, whereas the route I suggested requires just one install.
      My ComputersSystem Spec
  8.    03 Nov 2015 #58
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 3,694
    10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    That's actually 2 installs - an upgrade, whereas the route I suggested requires just one install.
    You're right - that is a better way
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  9.    03 Nov 2015 #59
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Dublin, Ireland
    Posts : 842
    Windows 1.00 to Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Build 14971.1000

    I clean installed 10576 in VirtualBox and Activated with one of my spare TechNet Windows 7 Ultimate keys. No problems so far.
      My ComputerSystem Spec
  10.    03 Nov 2015 #60
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    New York
    Posts : 187
    Windows 10

    How does one know what build you are currently on?...i have the main stream windows 10 installed (not insiders build) and have no clue what build it is currently on...

    By the way, appreciate the feedback and links.
    And am i assuming correctly that once build 10565 is sent to the mainstream users, then he would be able to clean install using his windows 7 key? (He isn't that technically oriented and would probably want to wait until he could do it in that simple way)...
    Last edited by Craig; 03 Nov 2015 at 10:12.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

 
Page 6 of 9 FirstFirst ... 45678 ... LastLast


Similar Threads
Thread Forum
My Windows 10 is all crazy, I can not set the brightness, the keys f1
I was looking in the M $ site, and saw that to solve the brightness of the stop needed to uninstall the display driver and then install again, but still does not work, nor tighten FN + F2 or F3, so when I go in configurations, does not lower the...
General Support
Windows 10 - what to do with Win 7 activation keys?
Good morning. :o I have an original Windows Seven Ultimate copy, bought from the Windows Store. I've been using this since 2011 and now I upgraded to Windows 10 Pro. I updated the system and then I downloaded the ISO file with the program I used...
Windows Updates and Activation
Solved Reinstalling Windows 7 after installing Windows 10 (With keys?)
Windows 10 was released today and I'd like to install it on my custom built desktop for testing. However, I would like to know if I can go back to Windows 7 after updating to Windows 10. I did a bit of research and found out that there was a roll...
Installation and Upgrade
Solved 8 -> 8.1 -> 10: The Evolution of Activation Keys
Hi everyone I'll preface this question with a simple disclaimer: every Microsoft product I've ever used is legit, paid for, updated in a timely manner, etc. I've also been using the same homebuilt PC all this time, so nothing has changed,...
Windows Updates and Activation
Solved Activation woes - Windows needs activation to personalize
Hi there anybody else got this -- trying to personalize PC -got you need to activate windows before you can personalize PC. Now what do I do !!!!!?! Is this normal (I did an UPDATE rather than a new install BTW). Cheers
Windows Updates and Activation
Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 10 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 10" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 15:11.
Find Us
Twitter Facebook Google+ Ten Forums iOS App Ten Forums Android App



Windows 10 Forums