Windows 10: MS to Allow Windows 10 Activation with Windows 7/8.1 Keys Start Nov.

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  1.    26 Oct 2015 #51

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    That part of I'm fully aware of; however there was talk here that the reason you also only got 30 days was because after that your old Windows PID also became invalid as it was used in place of the required PID for Win 10.

    This was a big bone of contention here (this forum) when Win 10 was first released to the general public. In fact, the other issue tied with it was system upgrades. In other worlds - can one upgrade their PC (MB, RAM, CPU) without havng to purchase a copy of Win 10? I'm not sure that question has been adequately answered as well, but...

    At any rate I'm a bit too lazy to search for the thread but I'm sure some, if not most, here remember that debate.

    Thanks.
    And the main proponent of that false theory, Kari, posted back and admitted that he was wrong once he performed a valid experiment that didn't involve using the same product key multiple times on multiple different computers. Many of us here have used our old OS keys after 30 days after upgrades and they continue to work just fine. But old myths do die very hard.
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  2.    26 Oct 2015 #52

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    It's confusing because MS made it that way otherwise you wouldn't have had the myriad of articles, threads, posts and questions all over the place asking for clarification.
    What is confusing (annoying anyway) is that at the moment if you upgrade from retail 7 or 8 to 10240 you can't move that activation (without spending hours on the phone) even though the EULA says you can.

    I run Windows 10 in bootcamp on Apple which means sometimes I native boot into Windows and also sometimes run the same partition as VM through VMWare when signed onto OSX. This just doesn't work with upgrade license - it doesn't matter if you upgrade one or the other or both to get registered on the MS servers - it just doesn't work. To do that you need a Windows 10 retail key (which I got by phoning Microsoft and asking for one).

    Even in that case - when I've been given a retail 10 key to replace it - my original 7 key still works (not that I have any need for it any more).
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  3.    26 Oct 2015 #53

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    And the main proponent of that false theory, Kari, posted back and admitted that he was wrong once he performed a valid experiment that didn't involve using the same product key multiple times on multiple different computers. Many of us here have used our old OS keys after 30 days after upgrades and they continue to work just fine. But old myths do die very hard.
    I'm not sure what falsity Kari was perpetuating so I'll address your post like this...

    Regarding PC upgrades... There were many sites and others pushing the same thing because MS provided vague and confusing answers which left way more questions then those answers provided. In fact, I'm still not so sure what the answer is.

    As for the Win 7 & 8 PID reusability - its good to hear you and others had no problem reclaiming them when reverting back beyond 30 days. However, MS also initially left some dazed and confusing answers to that one as well.

    At any rate I thank you for your replies.

    And for the record, Kari and I have a good rapport so... but I do understand people make mistakes.

    Anyway Peace
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  4.    02 Nov 2015 #54

    A friend of mine wants to do this new way...making an iso with the tool on the microsoft site and rather then doing the upgrade from his old 7 install, would like to simply clean install with the iso and use his windows 7 key to activate it...Anyone know if it is in effective yet? If not, how would we know when?
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       03 Nov 2015 #55

    Craig said: View Post
    A friend of mine wants to do this new way...making an iso with the tool on the microsoft site and rather then doing the upgrade from his old 7 install, would like to simply clean install with the iso and use his windows 7 key to activate it...Anyone know if it is in effective yet? If not, how would we know when?
    The build required for this activation by key from 7 or 8, is 10565 or later - currently these are time limited to July 2016. If your friend wishes a non-evaluation version they should obtain the RTM version from the Media Creation tool, and follow the instructions here:
    Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First - Windows 10 Forums
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  6.    03 Nov 2015 #56

    Fafhrd said: View Post
    The build required for this activation by key from 7 or 8, is 10565 or later - currently these are time limited to July 2016.
    Alternatively if you activate 10565 with key you can then clean install 10240, skip entering the key and it activates automatically through digital entitlement.
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       03 Nov 2015 #57

    halasz said: View Post
    Alternatively if you activate 10565 with key you can then clean install 10240, skip entering the key and it activates automatically through digital entitlement.
    That's actually 2 installs - an upgrade, whereas the route I suggested requires just one install.
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  8.    03 Nov 2015 #58

    Fafhrd said: View Post
    That's actually 2 installs - an upgrade, whereas the route I suggested requires just one install.
    You're right - that is a better way
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    Windows 1.00 to Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Build 14971.1000
       03 Nov 2015 #59

    I clean installed 10576 in VirtualBox and Activated with one of my spare TechNet Windows 7 Ultimate keys. No problems so far.
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  10.    03 Nov 2015 #60

    How does one know what build you are currently on?...i have the main stream windows 10 installed (not insiders build) and have no clue what build it is currently on...

    By the way, appreciate the feedback and links.
    And am i assuming correctly that once build 10565 is sent to the mainstream users, then he would be able to clean install using his windows 7 key? (He isn't that technically oriented and would probably want to wait until he could do it in that simple way)...
    Last edited by Craig; 03 Nov 2015 at 10:12.
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