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  1.    25 Oct 2015 #31
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    New York
    Posts : 131
    Windows 10

    @NavyLCDR: I originally did the upgrade using the microsoft tool and then clean installed (using an iso made with the tool after my upgraded one was activated) and using showkeyplus, my key id not the same as you have for windows 10 home which is what i have...

    Mine starts with YTMG3-(other numbers that are also different then what you list) so i am wondering if perhaps the Windows 10 product key it converts to after upgrading is really not generic as some think here...
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  2.    25 Oct 2015 #32
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 9,034
    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    @NavyLCDR: I originally did the upgrade using the microsoft tool and then clean installed (using an iso made with the tool after my upgraded one was activated) and using showkeyplus, my key id not the same as you have for windows 10 home which is what i have...

    Mine starts with YTMG3-(other numbers that are also different then what you list) so i am wondering if perhaps the Windows 10 product key it converts to after upgrading is really not generic as some think here...
    My mistake: YTMG3-N6DKC-DKB77-7M9GH-8HVX7
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  3.    25 Oct 2015 #33
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    New York
    Posts : 131
    Windows 10

    Yep, that's the one...so it IS generic then
    I'm just wondering what would happen if you had a hard drive failure and had to install a new hard drive, if the MS servers would still recognize the hardware as being tied to an activated windows 10 if you would do a clean install at that point...
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  4.    25 Oct 2015 #34
    Join Date : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig View Post
    Yep, that's the one...so it IS generic then
    I'm just wondering what would happen if you had a hard drive failure and had to install a new hard drive, if the MS servers would still recognize the hardware as being tied to an activated windows 10 if you would do a clean install at that point...
    Hard drive replacement does not change the Hardware ID - so the Microsoft activation servers sees it as the same computer and will activate it. You can either enter the generic product key during install, or click "skip" and "do this later" when asked for the product key.
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  5.    25 Oct 2015 #35
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    New York
    Posts : 131
    Windows 10

    Thanks for the clarification
    When i did the clean install, i did use the generic key when it asked for a product key...but good to know that i could have skipped it and it still would have activated anyway...
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  6.    26 Oct 2015 #36
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 10,009
    Windows 10 IoT

    I enter the generic key automatically with a PID.txt file. It speeds things up for me on a clean install. If your going to type it in manually, you may as well just click skip though. A lot faster and easier than typing it all in and maybe making a typo.
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  7.    26 Oct 2015 #37
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
    Posts : 1,753
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    Back on topic and concerning PID.txt - with 10565 setup on ISO, like the expected November update, you can enter your Windows 7 or 8 key for digital entitlement at the first Setup "Enter Product key" prompt, it will be accepted, and the install will complete with an activated Windows 10, sporting the Generic Windows 10 retail key.

    Has anyone confirmed that a Windows 7 or 8 product key in a PID.txt file in the 10565 source folder will setup Windows 10, without interaction as far as the Product key is concerned?
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  8.    26 Oct 2015 #38
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 10,009
    Windows 10 IoT

    No, I haven't. All my home PC's are already upgraded to 10 Pro and already have a digital entitlement. I don't have anything to test it on at the moment.
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  9.    26 Oct 2015 #39
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 3,548
    10 Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    No, I haven't. All my home PC's are already upgraded to 10 Pro and already have a digital entitlement. I don't have anything to test it on at the moment.
    You could easily test it on a VM. I don't have space to do this at the moment as I only have a 120GB drive and already I'm running 3 windows 10 and one OSX. I've only got about 8GB spare at the moment.

    What I did test yesterday though is to install 10565 and activate it on a new VM using a 7 Pro retail key. I then deleted the disk and created a new one and installed 10240 and it was activated immediately with digital entitlement. I've just customized it too much since then to delete it at the moment just to retest with a PID.txt.

    If you have space it would only take half an hour.
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  10.    26 Oct 2015 #40
    Join Date : Jun 2014
    USA
    Posts : 1,334
    Windows 10 Pro x64

    MS to Allow Windows 10 Activation with Windows 7/8.1 Keys Start Nov.

    Isn't this what MS was doing anyway, except it was done "automatically"? The way I understood it is when you upgraded from one of those two OS's you lost your Win 7/8 key after 30 days in swapping to Windows 10. In short, if you didn't revert back to your original OS after 30 days you lost those keys anyway. Remember the "you only have 30 days to revert back" statements MS made?

    If that's the case, the only difference I see is you can now do it on your own instead of waiting for the servers to "find" and validate your key.
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